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On with Kara Swisher

Barry Diller Unfiltered: on Family, Fortune, Elon, Trump & AI

On with Kara Swisher

New York Magazine

News Commentary, News, Society & Culture

4.22.2K Ratings

🗓️ 19 May 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Barry Diller’s fingerprints are all over pop culture. From inventing the Movie of the Week and pioneering the television mini-series to launching the FOX broadcast network, redefining home shopping channels, and popularizing dating apps — Diller has had a hand in shaping the American experience for decades.  His memoir, Who Knew, takes readers from his difficult childhood through his meteoric rise in Hollywood and finally, his reinvention as a groundbreaking internet entrepreneur.  And although much of the press around the book has focused on Diller’s sexuality and his relationship to his wife, Diane von Furstenburg, nothing in his personal life is anywhere near as fascinating as his singular career. Kara and Barry discuss his life, his family, his approach to business, and his take on Trump and how to beat him. Questions? Comments? Email us at [email protected] or find us on Instagram, TikTok, and Bluesky @onwithkaraswisher. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

How long does this go?

0:01.4

An hour.

0:02.2

One solid hour?

0:03.4

That's correct, Barry.

0:04.6

This is substantive.

0:06.3

It's substantive.

0:07.3

This is on with Kara Swisher, and I'm Kara Swisher. Hi, everyone from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network.

0:22.5

This is on with Kara Swisher, and I'm Kara Swisher.

0:25.4

Today, I'm talking to honestly one of my favorite people, Barry Diller, a media mogul,

0:30.3

entertainment powerhouse, and digital innovator whose fingerprints are all over American culture.

0:35.9

If you ever watched a TV miniseries

0:37.8

sang along to the movie Greece,

0:39.7

watch The Simpsons booktrip online

0:41.7

or found love on an app,

0:43.4

you owe Barry a little bit of gratitude.

0:45.9

His memoir, who knew,

0:47.3

has been making headlines in part

0:48.8

because he writes about his sexuality.

0:51.3

Barry's attraction to men

0:52.3

was the worst kept secret in Hollywood

0:54.0

mostly because he didn't really try to fool anyone. Barry simply attraction to men was the worst kept secret in Hollywood, mostly because he

0:55.0

didn't really try to fool anyone. Barry simply didn't say much about his love life one way or the

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