From the opinion pages of the Wall Street Journal, this is Free Expression with Jerry Baker.

Hello and welcome to Free Expression from the opinion page of the Wall Street Journal.

I'm Jerry Baker, editor at large of the journal.

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if you are so inclined. This week, I'll take a slightly, a little bit of a break from the

weekly, hurly, burly of politics and economics and the big picture stories that seem to

dominate the news. And my guest this week

is Barry Diller. Barry Diller, you will know, is one of those people who I think has genuinely

earned the title. If there is such a justification in the cliche of media mogul, Barry Diller

probably deserves that title. Having served in a variety of senior roles in the entertainment

business in succession of Hollywood companies.

He started 60 years ago, rose through the ranks, companies like ABC, Paramount and Fox.

In the 1990s, he made a slight turn into QVC, the Home Shopping Network,

and that flowered into a range of other TV channels and

networks, including online travel companies like Expedia. And now ultimately, and most

recently, he founded the company IAC, which is a collection of digital companies. Barry's written

a memoir, which has garnered a lot of attention. He's written a memoir tracking his life,

but his personal

and his professional life, it's called Who Knew? This attracted attention not only for his pretty

trenchant observations about the movie business, the entertainment business, and how that's

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