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🗓️ 21 May 2025
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In the last of our interviews about the recent Supreme Court ruling on the definition of a woman under the Equality Act, Nuala McGovern speaks to Baroness Kishwer Falkner, Chair of the Equality and Human Rights Commission. As the body responsible for enforcing the Act, the EHRC gave evidence in the Supreme Court case. In the first BBC interview since launching a consultation on updating their Code of Practice in light of the judgment, Baroness Falkner explains who they want to hear from and why.
Five years after the murder of George Floyd, a black man, by a white police officer in Minneapolis, a new BBC documentary is reflecting on the wave of Black Lives Matter protests that followed, including in the UK. Backlash: The Murder of George Floyd tells the story through the eyes of some of those who found themselves on the frontline during the spring and summer of 2020, including Khady Gueye, who made headlines after a local protest she planned in the Forest of Dean was initially cancelled. She joins Nuala, along with author, producer and speaker Nova Reid, to reflect on the impact the events of that time have had on their lives, and what has changed since then.
Nuala is also joined by Sarah Pochin, the first female MP for the Reform UK Party. The Runcorn and Helsby by-election was won by just six votes - the closest result in modern history. A former Conservative Councillor and mayor for Cheshire East, Sarah was a magistrate for 20 years. During her maiden speech she focussed on immigration, the cost of living and sexual violence against women.
Presenter: Nuala McGovern Producer: Andrea Kidd
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0:45.7 | Hello and welcome to the programme. This morning, Baroness Kishwer Falkner, chair of the Equality |
0:51.4 | and Human Rights Commission as we continue our conversations on the UK Supreme Court ruling. |
0:57.3 | It decided the terms woman and sex in the Equality Act 2010 refer to a biological woman and biological sex. |
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1:27.4 | Also today, the first female MP for the Reform UK party, Sarah Pochin. |
1:32.3 | Among the issues we'll discuss is the emergency releases of prisoners to deal with overcrowding |
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