Baroness Beeban Kidron: "Kids are more than clickbait"

The Times Tech Podcast

Will Morley

Business, Unknown, Technology

4.9 • 654 Ratings

🗓️ 18 November 2017

⏱️ 39 minutes

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The Sunday Times’ tech correspondent Danny Fortson brings on Baroness Beeban Kidron talk about her crusade against Big Tech, “age appropriate” design (1:40), turning 50 pages of terms and conditions into a couple sentences (2:50), the industry’s “category error” (4:30), why kids are considered kids online at 13 (7:50), how the smartphone changed everything (9:50), making the digital world look more like the real world (11:50), why the tech ‘nation-states’ need to assume more responsibilities (14:45), the turning tide of public opinion (16:00), industry being its own worst enemy (18:45), the tech ‘cartel’ (23:05), the “lost generation” (27:15), behaviour manipulation (29:30), and why tech isn’t like jazz or the novel (32:45).

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0:00.0	Yo, technology.
0:03.0	What is it all about?
0:04.8	You've created these platforms, and now they are being misused.
0:10.0	And you have to be the ones to do something about it.
0:14.7	Or we will.
0:16.3	Hello, and welcome back to another edition of Danny in the Valley. It's my last from London. I've
0:24.0	been here for a couple weeks working and I'm about to head back to the West Coast. But before I do,
0:29.4	I wanted to do one more episode from these shores. And we have a great guest this week.
0:35.0	Baroness Beban Kidron is here. That's two lords in three weeks. It's a great guest this week. Baroness Beban Kidron is here.
0:37.8	That's two Lords in three weeks.
0:40.8	It's a great show because Kidron is in her other life.
0:44.1	She's a film director, but in the House of Lords,
0:46.8	she has authored an amendment to the Child Protection Bill
0:50.1	that if approved would codify all kinds of new rules around children and the internet,
0:56.3	basically a whole host of new protections around how kids are treated by the likes of Facebook,
1:03.2	Twitter, Google, et cetera.
1:04.1	Really just how things work online.
1:06.4	So it would require higher default privacy settings.
1:09.6	It wouldn't allow GPS geolocation services.
1:13.7	There would be a whole raft of new things around kids and the Internet.
1:17.9	And this is interesting for a couple reasons.
1:19.6	One obviously is very obvious question around children on the Internet.
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