There's one word that sums up how we've gotten to this insane pass, and it's cowardice.

The number one ingredient that if it were present would change the outcome of almost all of these stories,

all of the smearing of good people for maybe at worst making a mistake, is courage.

It's a story of cowardice and courage the moment that we're in.

From 2017 to 2020, she was an opinion writer for The New York Times.

Then, in a very public resignation, she torched the work culture there

and revealed the tense, radical environment she was working within.

Before our guest, Barry Weiss was at the Times, she was at the Wall Street Journal for five years.

And now, stepping away from the biggest news outlet in the country, she's in the midst of crafting her own media property.

She now releases Common Sense with Barry Weiss, a newsletter on substaff, with the freedom to investigate and pursue stories she simply didn't have before.

She recently launched her own podcast as well, honestly, with Barry

Weiss, featuring unique and captivating conversations and stories rooted in the most fundamental

issues the country and all of us are up against right now. Barry wrote about and popularized

the intellectual dark web at the New York Times back in 2018. It was at that time that we connected.

We've been friends since, and in this episode we talk about why she's been avoiding joining my show these past three years.

Plus, in our conversation, Barry talks about how the 2016 election landed her at the New York Times,

the first experience she had being virally attacked across the Internet and media,

and some ideas to preserve the middle, where most Americans are politically.

Thank you. ideas to preserve the middle where most Americans are politically. Hey, hey, and welcome. This is the Ben Shapiro Show Sunday special. This show is

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Visit ExpressVPN.com slash Ben. Just a reminder, we'll be doing some bonus questions at the end with Barry. The only way to get access to that part of the conversation is to become a member. Head on over to Dailywire.com, become a member. You'll have access to all of the full conversations with every one of our awesome guests. Barry Weiss, thanks so much for joining the show. I'm really happy to be here.

Finally left the New York Times so I could come here as a safe space. Right, just for that, just for that. So let's talk about how you got involved with the New York Times. I want to go through kind of your whole evolution here because I first got to know you when you were still writing at the New York Times and you were doing a big story on the so-called intellectual dark web, which has gone through some iterations at this point.

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