Thanks for listening to Reasonable Doubt on Podcast One.

This is Beyond A Reasonable Doubt with your hosts, Mark Garagas and Gary Smith.

Now Hat Tip, welcome to Be A Bard and Hat Tip to our go-to-magnificent while Tyler

was lolly gagged around to get us all operational. So why do you break news right, Gary?

Yeah, it's been a busy morning and it might not be the end of the day if, you know, we'll see.

But it's very good. We've had two juries out and I much prefer juries out whether I'm not the lawyer

because there may not be anything I hate more than waiting for a jury when it's my case.

It's got to be the most excruciating part of the job. But for those who haven't heard,

these susment jury came back in a relatively short period of time. They were out on Friday,

came back this morning. To mind like six hours, right? Yeah, total less than six,

which is not usually the case if they've been out on a Friday. They're going to come right back

on a Monday, Tuesday, at least case B, their functional equivalent. But found a bad guilty.

By the way, for those who listen, Gary, we had kind of given coming attractions to this,

had we not based on the jury selection? Yeah, the jury selection. And then on some of the hits

that went down along the way, namely the fact that they weren't allowed to admit his text messages

between himself and the FBI council, the prosecution was trying to get those admitted as though they

were sworn statements, which was a tough putt. It was really one of the most prosecutorial creative.

I think other people, depending on which side of the aisle, you'll either call it

over zealous or not. But it really was like no one thousand and one prosecution I've never seen.

And I've never seen anything where first the prosecution was trying to get in this text message

as to who he represented and whether he disclosed that. And then going even farther,

even when they were precluded from that, it was basically an omission,

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