Thanks for listening to Reasonable Doubt on Podcast One.

This is Beyond a Reasonable Doubt with your hosts, Mark Garagas and Gary Smith.

I never get tired of listening to Awesome Dawson.

What's the need of that guy kid who looks like he's Dawson's child who you guys have hired?

That's Ben. Young Ben is I've been referring to him. He's a lot of Ben's in my life.

But that guy looks like as he had a paternity test, he looked like he's related to Dawson.

They sure are close. It's a little startling.

You look at him and you say, Jesus, what's Dawson doing to himself? He looks fantastic.

Yeah, Dawson must have cut out the smoking and you know he's over there eating his greens, but no, it's just young Ben.

So where do we start today? We only have 15 minutes and a lot of topics.

The Dept trial starts tomorrow. Yeah, they're gone back.

Apparently boy, talk about the great divide. I mean, you know, you could be on whatever side of it, but boy, it sure is polarizing.

Isn't it? What do you attribute that to? I've said gender, but I don't know the gender necessarily goes deep enough for his nuance to that for this.

Yeah, no, I mean, I think gender is definitely playing a role, but I think that, you know, I think time is really your biggest factor.

I think the fact that this is going on for so many weeks and they're taking these breaks and there's time for the internet to just digest it.

You know, I've gotten to watch at least in my own household, the opinions change in the opposite gender.

You know, my wife started out, maybe not the biggest Johnny Depp then, but the more this goes on and the more she gets DM to Instagram clips of this insanity, the more she's like,

I want my son to stay as far away from women like that as possible.

I mean, you know, I would say the, I'm talking with Megan Kelly the other day on her show.

Sure.

And I was saying, you know, I hate to voice a, well, I don't hate to. I often voice unpopular opinions, but city and courtrooms, I've seen women who have acted exactly like Amber did.

They say acted not in the sense of necessarily as thriving that she was funny, but that those same kinds of dramatic pauses, the same kinds of delivery things like that.

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