Hello everyone and welcome to unspooled.

The podcast where we explore the greatest films of all time, according to some, to see if they truly are that great or just remembered that way, this is a show that we always host with me and Paul Sheer, I am Amy Nicholson, I'm a film critic, I write about movies for the New York Times, Paul, Brilliant Writer, Brilliant Comedian, currently on tour, so he is not here in the studio right now, we can all pour out a little bit of coffee for Paul.

However, now that that morning is over, we do miss you Paul, come back soon, I have very exciting news, this week we are talking about the biggest movie sensation of the summer with my biggest dream podcast guest of all time, Jamie Loftus, she is my favorite podcaster, she did the shows my year in Mensa, the leader podcast, at cast on Kathy, she also does the show The Bechtelcast, which I got to be on a year ago, we talked about one of my deep, deep personal favorite movies.

Don't tell mom, the babysitter is dead, and Jamie Loftus is now an author, she wrote a book called Raw Dog, The Naked Truth About Hot Dogs, I don't know if anybody on here received my Twitter bio, but it very much says that I also deeply love hot dogs, so I've read Raw Dog, a door raw dog, I spent years of my life living on 7-11 hot dogs and could tell you exactly which 7-11s in LA have the pump bottle mustard versus the packets of mustard, pump bottle is so far superior, I can never open a packet of mustard, it's a real crisis.

But you know, I don't even need to talk about it anymore because we have Jamie Loftus as a hot dog expert, and now Jamie Loftus as our very special guest talking about barbing timer.

Okay, Jamie, I'm just going to ask a foundational barbingheimer question right at the top. Did you barbingheimer together in one weekend or did you space out your explosions?

I've done it twice now, I did it the first time I barbed in Heimord, but I did up in Heimord then Barbie, on the day it came out in Boston, no break, which I think colored my opinion of both movies significantly.

Did it all the way through the first time, and then I saw them both separately afterwards.

So like mommy and daddy got divorced.

Exactly, I went to visit mommy and I had a better time and I went to visit daddy and I had a worse time, which also feels very divorce-coded.

Now why in the initial period, did you decide to see Oppenheimer first and then Barbie?

It just, I don't like to leave somewhere bummed out. That's basically it. I just wanted to like hedge my bets and leave on what I was assuming would be like a pretty fun, optimistic note versus one of history's saddest days.

I don't know what is it saying about me that I cried at Barbie, but I didn't cry.

Nothing, I think that that was also true of my experience both times.

I'm so, wait, when order did you, did you do the thing?

I was not able to do the thing because I had to see them for work.

But I had this idea that I just wanted to throw at you right away because you are the hot dog queen.

I was like, I got to think about connections between Barbie and hot dogs.

I remember this quote from your book when you're describing the hot dog and you describe the hot dog as, you know, the thing you love from the time you start to form memories.

She is not American at all and the most American girl you could meet all marketing, no substance.

And I thought that is a line that could go both ways, baby.

That's a Barbie too. That's Files.

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