What is it that you give up when you join a company?

Do you own your own time to dream?

Basically Mattel is arguing that even if you come up with things that are in your dreams

at night, they own it.

Hi and welcome back to Amicus.

This is Slate's podcast about the courts and the law and the rule of law.

I am Dahlia Lithwick and I write about those things for Slate.

And while the Supreme Court is often vacationing this summer, we are hosting a kind of legal

geek book club with a series of scorching, sizzling summer legal beach reads about the

court, which is like a thing.

And this week I'm actually not kidding.

This is a, this is a beach book about the courts and I'm delighted to welcome Professor

Orly Lobel to the show.

Orly is a professor of law at San Diego.

And she's going to talk with us today about her award-winning book You Don't Own Me.

It was published last year.

She was the author of a 2013 book called Talent Wants to Be Free about corporate innovation

and secrecy and what she thinks of as cognitive property.

So interesting.

This newer book You Don't Own Me actually takes that focus on intellectual property, but

directs it at an epic legal battle involving high-heeled blonde dolls, we call them barbies,

and crazy corporate espionage.

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