Barbarians at the Gate | Interview: Allen C. Guelzo

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.6 • 6.3K Ratings

🗓️ 25 September 2025

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Historian Allen C. Guelzo joins Jonah Goldberg to discuss his new book, The Golden Thread: A History of the Western Tradition, Volume I: The Ancient World and Christendom, exploring the origins of the key threads that make up the Western tradition, how they were woven together over two-and-a-half millennia, and how foundational ideas such as science, freedom, equality, law, good government, and virtue emerged and evolved. The Remnant is a production of The Dispatch, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including access to all of Jonah’s G-File newsletters—click here. If you’d like to remove all ads from your podcast experience, consider becoming a premium Dispatch member by clicking here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:34.1	Greetings, dear listeners, this is Jonah Goldberg, host of the Remnant podcast, brought to you by the Dispatch and Dispatch Media. I am back from my exciting adventure in Switzerland and brief stint in the UK, when we can talk about all that later.
1:43.3	I'm very excited about today's guests, and I say that without any irony whatsoever. When I heard that about this book that came out, that has come out, The Golden Thread, more about that in a moment, and I saw that Alan Gelzo was the co-author of it. I immediately said, oh, here's our excuse to have Gelzo back on because he's a fan
2:01.3	favorite and I love the guy. And so we're going to talk about the golden thread here. But I think also
2:05.9	I will extend an invitation to his co-author, James Hankins, who took point on a lot of the
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