You're listening to Mystery of 2012, Barbara Marks Hubbard, unconscious evolution. 12 Barbara that we are currently in a time where the thinking field of humanity, what

till hard Deshardan called the noosphere is in the process of opening its eyes.

Or in other words, that the process of evolution is becoming conscious of itself. Barbara we've been recording a series of interviews with various authors and experts about the

mystery of 2012 and some of the people we've been talking to pin this

date of transformation specifically to December 21st, 2012. And other people I've said

things like, you know, come on, this is a wave of evolution covering decades.

It's almost a joke to think that there's suddenly going to be a huge shift from the 21st of December 2012 to the 22nd of December 2012.

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So I'm curious, what's your view about this date that has been pinpointed December 21st, 2012.

There are several ways of looking at it.

One is the amazing perception of the Mayans and their galactic understanding of solar systems and the way the universe works and coming

up with that date.

That's one way of looking at it.

The way I look at it is that it's obvious that we're going into a radical breakdown.

And my intuition is that we're therefore capable of a radical breakthrough and that the shift points in evolution is called punctuated equilibrium that when you come to this degree of non-equilibrium, and there are new forces

emerging and connecting, there does come a moment that's very quick when the new system emerges.

One example is the metamorphosis of a caterpillar to a butterfly. It's so interesting. There's the cocoon, there's the

evidently the imaginal cells start to emerge within the body of the

caterpillar and they proliferate and the caterpillar immune system destroys them but

they proliferate and they resonate and they evidently connect to a point where there is a very rapid jump to the butterfly. In fact that

period is called in-star. It's so quick. Is it possible that we are at the point of

radical metamorphosis? And the reason I think it's possible that it's going to show up is that the

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