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The Shift with Sam Baker

Barbara Kingsolver on why life gets better with every passing decade - THE SHIFT REVISITED

The Shift with Sam Baker

Sam Baker Ltd

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Personal Journals

4.8525 Ratings

🗓️ 24 December 2024

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

For this bonus episode of The Shift, I’m delighted to welcome a very special guest: the award-winning author of ten bestselling novels, Barbara Kingsolver.  Every so often, a book comes along that you want to press into the hands of everyone you meet. For me, Demon Copperhead, is one of those books. A reimagining of the Dickens classic, David Copperfield, translated to the Appalachian mountains in the midst of the opioid crisis that has gripped the area. It’s funny, it’s furious and its hero Demon is a character you will never ever forget.  I’m not the only one who thinks so. Earlier this year Barbara was awarded a Pulitzer Prize and now she’s become the first person ever to win the Women's Prize for Fiction twice (she won over a decade ago for her novel, The Lacuna). A couple of weeks ago, Barbara foolishly let me and my little mic into her Edinburgh hotel room to tell me how growing up weird, bookish and poor shaped her and how she discovered she was a so-called hillbilly. We also discussed being an introvert in an extrovert world, finding love second time around, not winning the jackpot in the mothering department and why life gets better with every decade – and at 68 and the top of her game, she's living proof. She also shares her killer packing tips and, I have to say, if you ever wanted to do a three week holiday with just a carry-on, Barbara is your woman! * You can buy all the books mentioned in this podcast at The Shift bookshop on Bookshop.org, including Demon Copperhead by Barbara Kingsolver and the book that inspired this podcast, The Shift: how I lost and found myself after 40 - and you can too, by me. * And if you'd like to support the work that goes into making this podcast and get a weekly newsletter plus loads more content including transcripts of the podcast, please consider joining The Shift community. Find out more at www.theshiftwithsambaker.substack.com • The Shift (on life after 40) with Sam Baker is created and hosted by Sam Baker and edited by Emily Sandford. If you enjoyed this podcast, please rate/review/follow as it really does help other people find us. And let me know what you think on twitter @sambaker or instagram @theothersambaker Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I've always wanted to be mom.

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And we're bringing you on our journey through everything.

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I have no idea what we're doing.

0:13.0

Thank you. I have more of an idea.

0:15.0

I think of it like a Tamagocchi.

0:17.0

At the end of all of this...

0:20.0

We're going to have a little baby. Raising Chelsea, a Hulu

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0:34.7

Hello and welcome to this very special bonus episode of The Shift, the podcast that aims to tell

0:41.1

the no-holds about being a woman post-40, created and hosted by me, writer and broadcaster,

0:47.1

Sam Baker. I'm delighted to welcome a very special guest, the award-winning author of 10

0:53.9

best-selling novels, Barbara Kingselver.

0:56.7

Now, every so often a book comes along that you want to press into the hands of everybody

1:00.5

you meet. For me, Demon Copperhead is one of those books. It's a reimagining of the Dickens

1:05.7

classic David Copperfield, translated to the Appalachian Mountains in the midst of the opioid crisis.

1:11.8

It's funny, it's furious, and its hero, demon, is a character you will never, ever forget.

1:19.2

I'm not the only one who thinks so.

1:21.0

Earlier this year, Barbara was awarded a Pulitzer Prize, and it's also shortlisted for the

1:24.8

Women's Prize for Fiction.

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