Barbara F. Walter on the Dangers of Authoritarianism and Civil War

Alyssa Milano: Sorry Not Sorry

Peace By Peace Productions

Politics, News

3.6 • 3.5K Ratings

🗓️ 23 June 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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This episode was recorded on June 12, 2025.

It has been 236 years, 3 months, and one week since the United States Constitution came into effect on March 4th, 1789. The President of the United States has federalized the state militia of California and deployed it, along with the United States Marines, against the citizens of our country in Los Angeles. The Governor of Texas has deployed the Texas national guard against the citizens in that state. The governor and attorney general of georgia have threatened violence against its citizens. The speaker of the house of representatives this week stated that the governor of California needs to be tarred and feathered. And on Saturday, the wannabe dictator of our country is holding a North Korea style military parade on his birthday, against the wishes of the government of the city where it happens. Citizens across the nation are rising up against the violent, vengeful tactics of the trump regime against citizens and noncitzens alike, and it feels like we are approaching a breaking point. We’ve aksed Barbara F. Walter, one of the words leading experts on civil wars, violent extremism, and authoritarianism, and the author of “How Civil Wars Start” back on the show to help us understand where we are and where we may be going.

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0:00.0	Hi, I'm Alyssa Milano, and this is Sorry Not Sorry. We begin now with Marines who are now positioned in the Los Angeles area.
0:42.3	President Trump deployed 700 Marines to L.A. and another 2,000 National Guard's troops to L.A.
0:48.1	in order to protect federal buildings and employees amid the ongoing protests against ICE operations.
0:53.6	We are not going away.
0:55.4	We are staying here to liberate the city from the socialist and the burdensome leadership
1:03.4	that this governor and that this mayor have placed on this country and what they have tried
1:08.1	to insert into this city.
1:09.5	Today's events in about 2,000 cities and towns were organized by the No King's movement,
1:15.1	which calls the administration's actions authoritarian.
1:18.5	There were rallies near Mr. Trump's Mar-Lago residents in West Palm Beach, Florida.
1:23.1	No white! No KKK! No fascist U.S.S.
1:27.4	I was there peacefully.
1:28.3	At one point, I had a question.
1:30.3	And so I began to ask a question.
1:34.3	I was almost immediately forcibly removed from the room.
1:38.3	I was forced to the ground, and I was handcuffed.
1:45.5	Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining us.
1:48.5	I'm sorry, not sorry.
1:49.8	I'm Alyssa Milano, and I'm here with my co-host, Ben Jackson.
1:52.9	And we are so glad that you're here.
1:55.3	It is June 12, 2025, 236 years, three months, and one week since the United States Constitution
2:04.2	took effect on March 4, 1789.
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