I think the main reason why I became under the eye of the authorities is nothing I had done.

My husband in 2016 started a political party.

He was outraged at how the government was forcing parents to vaccinate or they wouldn't get their money.

And a journalist said to him,

Michael, are you prepared to lose all your money, your business, your house, your reputation?

Michael said, I am. What Michael was not prepared for that they targeted me.

Hey, everybody is Chris. And today I am interviewing Barbara O'Neill. And some of you may be

familiar with Barbara. I first came across her online. I want to say it was just a couple years ago.

Maybe it was during 2020, but clips of her teaching started populating my feed. I started seeing more and more

of her. And I just really loved what she teaches. She is just such a brilliant down-to-earth

teacher. She's a believer. She just has a lot of experience helping people heal holistically.

And she has a background as a nurse from Australia.

And I thought it would be really fun to talk to her and let her share some of the wisdom

that she's acquired over many years of helping people with various chronic diseases

and clarify maybe some confusion

about health and wellness and healing. And so, Barbara, it's just great to see you and I'm excited

to dig in. It's great to be here, Chris. So you are in Alabama.

I am.

And you work out of a retreat center called Living Springs.

Yes, Living Springs is a health retreat.

It's been functioning, I think, for several years now.

And often a couple of times a year they ask me to come in and

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