You're listening to me for free right now, and that's awesome because more and more things aren't free right now.

I mean, think about all the things you're paying for daily, monthly yearly.

Well, here's something that won't add to that list, the free iHeartRadio app, podcasts, streaming music, digital radio.

All free, it's the future of audio and unlike almost everything else in your life right now,

except maybe air, it doesn't cost a dollar.

So take advantage of this, listen to everything you love on the iHeartRadio app for free.

I'm the line with us, my old buddy John Perkins, formerly a chief economist at a major international consulting firm.

Now he is an author, speaker, activist.

John has written 11 books including his latest confessions of an economic hitman.

Third edition with 12 new chapters, John Perkins.org, spelled just like it sounds, is his website.

Jay Perkins author is his Twitter handle.

John, welcome back to the program.

Well, first of all, before we get into what's new in the book, for people who might not be familiar with you and your work,

you want to give us a brief summary of the original confessions of an economic hitman.

Thanks, Tom. It's great to be with you again.

The original described my own activities as an economic hitman.

As you mentioned, I was actually chief economist at a major consulting firm.

But my job, in my staff's job, was to identify countries with resources that are corporations coveted,

like oil or other minerals.

And then make huge amounts of that country through the World Bank or one of its

historic organizations.

However, the money never actually went to the country.

...