Is this thing on? Is this thing on? This is working. Hello and this're welcome to like-minded friends with me Tom Allen and me Susie Ruffle.

And Susie was just telling me she's been for a run.

Well, I've been for a 3K.

I don't like the world. The world keeps telling me I've got to do 5K and then I was like you know what I don't I can just do 3 I hate it a lot less

it's like five songs fine that's a nice way of looking at it. Yeah. It's like five songs. Half of Lizzo's album. No. Less than half of Lizzo's album. Great. Yeah, that's that's a nice amount of, that's a nice amount of time, isn't it?

So is that when you're starting with...

Yeah, I'm getting that sense as well.

Do you...

Well, you have to be careful, because as you you know I overdid it with running and then I got

Housemaid's knee? Yeah yeah handmade, handmade's knee. Yeah let's call it a handmaid's knee I think.

Yeah I like that. A handmaid's knee I think. I like that.

A handmaid's knee tail.

Under his 5K.

Under my 5K, yeah.

Yeah, under his 5K, yeah.

I say that I've only seen bits of the hand sale because as you know I found it too upsetting.

It's very bleak. We watched it right at the beginning of lockdown.

And it did make us feel like we had a lot of freedom.

Oh that's, oh yeah that's true, yeah Yeah that's a good idea. We've actually got a lot of freedom.

Actually we're fine. We're fine. This is great. But it's like it is incredible.

Like the cast amazing. Yeah, the cast really good. The writing is great. It's shot like a movie. I loved it.

Did you? But it is absolutely harrowing. I mean whenever my mom had it on and I would wander into the room every time it would be something I'd end up watching something that I found like chilling to my court like not just that oh that's a bit, not like watching like a murder on like,

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