Baltimore: The Maskell Paradox
Foul Play: A Historical True Crime Podcast
Shane L. Waters, Wendy Cee, Gemma Hoskins
4.5 • 992 Ratings
🗓️ 5 December 2018
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Summary
The conversation delves into Dr. Richmond's personal recollections of Maskell, providing a contrasting image of the persona he presented to the world—a learned and seemingly compassionate counselor, against the backdrop of the heinous acts he is alleged to have committed. This juxtaposition of "Good Joe" with "Bad Joe" paints a vivid picture of the duality that Maskell embodied and the confounding aura that he cast around those who thought they knew him.
As Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters navigate this discussion with Dr. Richmond, listeners will be invited to reflect on the alarming potential for evil to reside behind a mask of virtue. Dr. Richmond's expertise in school counseling and psychology offers an invaluable perspective on how Maskell's authoritative position enabled his dark side to flourish unnoticed for so long.
Tune in to "Sister Cathy: The Maskell Paradox" for a compelling exploration of how a figure can be revered and reviled in equal measure, and the impacts such dualities have on our understanding of justice, trust, and the human psyche. This episode is a pivotal point in our ongoing journey to piece together the truth behind Sister Cathy's murder and the systemic cover-up of abuse within Baltimore's institutions.
Remember, "Sister Cathy" is an ongoing series with new revelations and conversations that shed light on this profound and tragic tale. Stay with us as we endeavor to unravel the enigma and keep the legacy of Sister Cathy Cesnik alive.
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| 0:00.0 | I'm going to Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Hello everybody. Today's guest is really special. I just told her she's one of my favorite people that I've never met and her name is Dr Lee Richmond. She is a licensed psychologist in Maryland who is presently, I believe, a professor of education in the area of counseling at Loyola College in Baltimore. |
| 0:55.0 | But you all will remember Dr. Richmond |
| 0:59.0 | in the Keepers as one of Joseph Maskel's former teachers. |
| 1:03.5 | So welcome, Rhee, thank you for being here. |
| 1:06.0 | Thank you. |
| 1:08.0 | I have to correct two things you said. |
| 1:10.0 | The name is now Loyola University, Maryland. |
| 1:13.0 | I no longer teach there. |
| 1:14.5 | I'm a professor of marital. |
| 1:17.2 | Are you retired? |
| 1:19.6 | I have a, no, not really. |
| 1:21.8 | I have a small business that does continuing education for counselors. |
| 1:26.0 | We get workshops and offer CEOs through that are acceptable for graduate counselors who were in the schools |
| 1:33.0 | their and mental program. |
| 1:34.6 | Thank you for the clarification. |
| 1:36.7 | While we're on that, can you please tell us |
| 1:39.5 | a little bit about your career and where you started and how you got to where you are now. |
| 1:45.7 | I got to where I was where I am now by spending a long time being a professor. |
| 1:50.5 | First at Hopkins and later at Loyola, there were 45 years of my life spent doing that. |
| 1:56.0 | I don't know what else to say, I really don't, I was before that a teacher in school, |
| 2:01.0 | and then a counselor in school system, and then a professor at a community college and then went on to the |
| 2:07.4 | university. |
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