Baltimore: Sister Cathy, Unlocking Evidence Box Secrets

Foul Play: A Historical True Crime Podcast

Shane L. Waters, Wendy Cee, Gemma Hoskins

True Crime, History, Society & Culture

4.5 • 992 Ratings

🗓️ 15 May 2019

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

This episode brings a new dimension to the puzzling tale of the mystery of the box of evidence. Co-hosts Shane and Gemma sit down to dissect the perplexing events that left listeners on the edge of their seats in a critical follow-up to last week's narrative.

Joining them is a special guest, known as 'Jane the phone lady,' who found herself at the center of what was revealed to be a complex scam involving a supposed box of evidence critical to the Sister Cathy Cesnik case. This session is dedicated to unpacking the aftermath of the "box girl scenario," providing essential context and reflections on the outcome.

For those captivated by last week's episode, this episode furnishes the necessary backdrop and analysis of the events that followed. The discussion reveals the emotional and psychological impacts of being caught in the crosshairs of hope and deceit, a common plight in the area of unresolved crime cases.

Listeners are advised to familiarize themselves with the content of the previous episode to fully grasp the revelations and narrative arc of this installment. Shane and Gemma offer a detailed breakdown of how the box scenario played out, the emotional toll on all involved, and the takeaways from pursuing leads that may be too good to be true.

Prepare for an episode that not only continues the captivating investigation but also examines the effects of false leads on the pursuit of justice. It's a journey into the heart of true crime investigation, marked by complexity, caution, and the continuous quest for truth.
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0:36.2	I'm going to Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Hi everybody our guest this week is somebody that you heard about. Our guest this week is going to be Jane the phone lady. I know you're all saying
0:42.2	oh my God we released the Telly the Box Girl episode over again so that you could all catch up with what was happening there.
0:50.0	And the woman whose phone was stolen,
0:55.3	this is two years ago, has graciously agreed
0:58.7	to talk to us and she's gonna tell us
1:00.9	her side of the story in a minute. but just to bring you up today and give you a timeline on September 17, 2017, which was about four months after the Keepers was released, I got a Facebook message
1:19.2	from the woman who we're calling Jane the phone lady saying I have some information for you
1:26.7	and I'm not sure what to do about it. Now I get messages similar to that from a lot of people. Some are good leads, some are just
1:35.7	somebody wanting to say I have six brothers who knew sister Kathy or I know
1:40.6	somebody who knew somebody but I responded and I said,
1:44.6	sure, what's your information?
1:46.8	And the person who was sending me the message said,
1:50.8	I have a box of materials that I think you should have and I don't want to have it because
1:58.1	I think it has to do with what was in the keepers.
2:02.4	So I asked if I could call her
2:05.0	and I, she gave me her a phone number,
2:08.0	we talked for a while,
2:10.0	and then she said,
2:11.0	I have to go pick up my daughter as daycare can I call you back. So she called me back while she was picking her daughter up. I could hear the child in the back seat and we talked for about an hour. She messaged me in the middle of the night and said,
2:30.0	I'm sorry, but I don't want to do this anymore. Of course, Jemma, the Nancy Drew was frustrated and I tried to reach this person all day long and got nowhere.
2:42.3	Later that evening I got a phone call from or I'm sorry another
2:49.4	message from the woman we're going to speak to today, her name, we're going to call her Jane, and her
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