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Foul Play: A Historical True Crime Podcast

Baltimore: Sister Cathy's Nun's Choice 2

Foul Play: A Historical True Crime Podcast

Shane L. Waters, Wendy Cee, Gemma Hoskins

History, Society & Culture, True Crime

4.5 β€’ 992 Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 25 September 2019

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Gemma and Shane continue their evocative conversation with Sr. Rose Pacatte about the profound implications of Sister Cathy Cesnik's decision to leave the convent before her untimely death. Sr. Rose, a discerning voice on matters of faith and a seasoned scholar in media studies, provides an informed perspective on the life Sister Cathy chose to step away from, as well as the possible motivations and consequences of such a life-altering choice.

This episode journeys into the heart of convent life, guided by Sr. Rose's expertise and the hosts' poignant inquiries. They discuss the nuances of commitment and contemplation in the lives of Catholic nuns and sisters, examining into the personal and spiritual dimensions that define their existence. The conversation opens up about the seldom-discussed aspects of religious life, such as cloistering, the variance in roles and vows, and the circumstances that may lead one to seek exclaustration, or a temporary leave from monastic duties.

As the dialogue unfolds, a letter from a character named Sister Kathy, contemplating her future and the possibility of leaving the convent, is examined. Sister Kathy's contemplations serve as a narrative mirror to Sister Cathy's own story, providing a gateway to understanding the internal and external struggles that accompany such decisions.

Shane and Gemma, alongside Sr. Rose, also touch on the bureaucratic and canonical frameworks that govern the lives of those within the Church, discussing how such structures have evolved since the Second Vatican Council. This candid exchange not only reveals Sister Cathy's choices but also invites listeners to reflect on the broader historical and personal contexts of religious dedication.

Listeners are encouraged to consider the weight of such decisions and the influence of the Church on personal destiny. Visit itsfoulplay.com for further exploration of Sister Cathy's story and to examine deeper into the topics discussed . For more about Sr. Rose and her insights into faith, film, and education, visit www.sisterrosemovies.net. We seek to understand the layered lives of those who choose to live beyond the veil. Our Sponsors: * Check out Kensington Publishing: https://www.kensingtonbooks.com * Check out Mood and use my code SHANE for a great deal: https://mood.com Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm going to Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, From hearing the letter and from watching the keeper's sister Rose,

0:33.7

do you think that in your mind,

0:36.6

what is your theory?

0:37.5

Do you feel like them leaving was

0:40.6

because of her finding out what was going on?

0:43.0

It might have played into it, but I'm, if I just look on what you just read and what I saw on the

0:49.7

keepers, if they were really afraid of Maskell, they would have left town.

0:55.0

They, I think, if that was really a threat to them.

0:59.0

So I think that nun was a very strong character, and I think she was ready to stand up to him.

1:05.0

That's my impression because that letter that she wrote to her family and loved one

1:09.0

meant she took no prisoners. But this is the way it is.

1:13.2

You don't like it?

1:14.7

Too bad.

1:16.0

Her father was so upset.

1:18.8

Oh, I can see that.

1:20.4

I can see that.

1:21.9

Yeah, she had only come out of her education like she was only at

1:26.7

Kio a couple of years before she started considering this. Yeah I do I do. She did say to her parents that when they

1:36.9

were so disappointed she was breathing Keo she said it's safer for me to teach in a

1:42.1

public school than it is for me to stay at Keo.

1:45.0

And I think that's significant. I think she had a number of motives.

1:51.0

You know what? That could absolutely be true.

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