There are so many folks that are doing this work and we're all doing this kind of approach,

making it unique to our individual cities.

But yes, we're starting to see that tie change, especially nationally, where we have to crack

through here is

locally, and you understand this, right, because sometimes that stuff gets deeply rooted

into people, and especially surrounding areas and how we have to push, push, and press,

especially sometimes with the local media, about how we have to start to talk about that change in a more

positive way and not get into this business where we're going to sensation now that that

homicides and violent crime are down, we're going to sensationalize every single incident

and drive it so much that people actually don't believe what's happening.

Hello and welcome why what's happening. Hello and welcome.

Why is this happening with me, your host, Chris Hayes.

You know, one of the things that we saw happen amidst all of the kind of societal dislocation that happened in 2020

with COVID lockdowns was a real a real appreciable spike in crime, particularly violent crime.

Homicides spiked that year. It depends on the city you're looking at, but it was a pretty

nationwide phenomenon. And the numbers, again, national crime statistics can be pretty

incomplete and also they take a while. But there's like a 5% crime spike nationwide, according

the FBI in 2020. We saw that continue to go up in 21 and 22 and then it started to let it

off. And there was a huge amount of coverage of it. I mean, in some cities you were seeing 20 to 30 percent increases in things like violent crime and

assaults and homicides. And it was a huge defining issue in many places because people were

feeling less safe. And the data bore it out. What we've seen in the last three years is some of

the most precipitous crime declines we've seen since the sort of historic drops in the 1990s, both nationwide and in specific localities, particularly localities that have seen, you know, that had been very hard hit, both by violent crime endemically and also in the rise of violent crime in the wake of the pandemic and its dislocation.

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