Good evening and welcome to the Pompey Politics Podcast.

I'm Ian Tini Morris.

And I'm Simon Sandsbury.

Good afternoon, Simon, and welcome to our 105th show, I think it is now.

It is, a 105th show and our penultimate show of 2021.

Indeed, before we go into our very own Christmas recess

and potentially have massive parties that we shouldn't have, or maybe not. not yeah it's an interesting thing to be able to have a

shrewdigger's party where you can say that you're not sure that the party exists but you're

certain that rules were followed at the party that you're not sure existed but there we go

who am i i i'm not I'm not Dominic Raab.

You are not indeed. I am not indeed. But at least we haven't got Matt Hancock telling us

not to kiss people at Christmas parties. No, no, no, it would be a little unwise. So this

evening's show, Simon, obviously with a lot of news headlines

lately about people crossing from the border in France across the English Channel and the

very perilous crossing that that involves. So, you know, rather than rely on the tabloid headlines, we thought

we'd invite along a couple of experts or people who are highly interested and engaged with

the subject to give us some more frontline insight into the subject.

Indeed, yes. So we've got not one but two experts to talk to us today and to give us some

decent insight, as you say, beyond the headlines, and to tell us actually what their experiences

are and what's happening. So we hope that we might be able to squeeze in some talk about

by-elections.

But let's get in our esteemed guest first, shall we?

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