This is Bob.

Welcome to the shit show.

Things are going to get weird.

Get your fave villain, Kale Lowry.

And you're listening to Barely

Famous. Today I'm sitting with Jennifer

Hartman and I'm super excited because I fell in love with her when I read still beating and

thank you so much for joining us on Barely Famous.

Of course thank you for having me.

Yeah no I'm excited and I'm so you're so chill and I was so nervous about this and I was like what if I come in and then I'm just like because you're an author like I'm like I've seen you on TV though like you're way more famous but no because you're an awful like people read your books like I don't have any

talents you know what I mean? I feel the same way though so I'm equally nervous.

Well thank you that makes me feel a lot better. So did you always want to be a writer?

So I always wanted to write.

I never actually believe that I could turn

writing into a career.

So it was always just kind of a hobby and a pastime.

I wrote poetry. I dabbled in fan fiction, that kind of really stirred my passion

for writing. But I don't know, I settled down early, I had a family, three kids, and I was like,

whatever, you know, just have to make, you know, a living.

And then what happened was COVID hit and my husband was like, you used to love to write.

You should go back to doing that.

It's like, I don't know.

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