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Beyond Today

Baghdadi: Trump’s movie moment?

Beyond Today

BBC

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4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 28 October 2019

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

Donald Trump announced over the weekend that the fugitive leader of the so-called Islamic State, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, had been killed in a raid in Syria. During the press conference he described the ISIS leader “whimpering and crying and screaming all the way” to the back of a tunnel in his compound, where he detonated a suicide vest as he was surrounded by three of his children. The president also went on to say that “it was just like a movie”, and that this moment is bigger than the death of Osama Bin Laden. Mina al-Lami, Jihadi analyst for BBC monitoring, tells us Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi’s story. We also hear from BBC North America editor Jon Sopel about why this moment is so important to Donald Trump. Presenter: Matthew Price Producers: Philly Beaumont and Duncan Barber Mixed by Nicolas Raufast Editor: John Shields

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, music radio podcasts.

0:04.6

Hello, I'm Matthew Price.

0:08.5

This is Beyond Today from BBC Radio 4.

0:11.0

Every day we ask one big question about one big story.

0:14.0

Today the killing of the ISIS leader al-Baggdaddy is this Donald Trump's movie moment?

0:30.0

So it was one twenty three on Sunday morning, the 27th of October, and I know because I was doing what they

0:36.4

tell you not to when you can't sleep and I was scrolling through Twitter. And real Donald

0:41.0

Trump posts, something very big has just happened.

0:45.0

And that's how it started.

0:47.0

Last night the United States brought the world's number one terrorist leader to justice.

0:54.0

Abu, Bakar al-Baggotti is dead.

1:00.0

A few hours later he held a press conference

1:02.0

to tell us all about the moment when US Special Forces finally tracked down the leader of the most feared and brutal terrorist organization, ISIS.

1:11.0

The Islamic State, as Abu Bakr al-Bagdadi called it.

1:15.0

Now there'd been reports of al-Bagdadi's death several times in the past.

1:20.0

This time it seems to be true.

1:22.0

It's a huge moment for all those touched by his murderous ideology,

1:27.1

whether in Iraq or Syria or closer to home, Paris, Brussels, London, Manchester.

1:34.0

It's also, in a different way, a very big moment for Donald Trump, for his presidency,

1:39.2

for his political future.

1:41.9

It's a tale that plays out like a movie, an all-American story of heroism, and as

1:47.0

the BBC's North America editor John Soapel watched that press conference, he saw a president beginning to fold himself into that movie script.

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