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Bag Man

Bag Man Bonus Episode: Indictment Edition

Bag Man

MSNBC

History, News, Rachel Maddow

4.828.1K Ratings

🗓️ 3 July 2023

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

In 1973, in the throes of the Watergate scandal, three young federal prosecutors uncovered a separate criminal scheme being run inside the White House — the sitting vice president, Spiro Agnew, was taking envelopes stuffed with cash in exchange for official acts as an elected official. If Nixon left office, Agnew would be the next President. And so, what would happen if the President was charged with a federal crime? Worse yet, what if he was convicted? Now that Donald Trump has been charged with 37 federal crimes – as he runs again for president — Rachel Maddow and Bag Man executive producer Mike Yarvitz talk with the three Spiro Agnew prosecutors who have the only experience in our nation’s history with a situation like this.

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0:00.0

I say this to you. The conduct of high individuals in the Department of Justice, particularly

0:15.3

the conduct of the chief of the Criminal Investigation Division of that Department, is

0:21.5

unprofessional and malicious and outrageous. It is my intention to use the courts of this

0:28.2

country and an attempt to gain permission to examine under oath these people who are

0:37.1

trying to destroy me politically through the abuse of the criminal justice system of the

0:42.4

United States. Because of these tactics which have been employed against me, because

0:54.2

small and fearful men have been frightened into furnishing evidence against me. They have

1:03.2

perjured themselves in many cases it's my understanding. I will not resign if indicted.

1:10.0

I will not resign if indicted. Richard Nixon's Vice President, Spiro Agnew, I will not resign

1:20.6

if indicted. When Spiro Agnew gave that defiant speech in September 1973, the Nixon administration

1:29.3

was just under incredible pressure. The Watergate investigation was in full swing. It was getting

1:35.0

worse and worse for President Nixon by the day and everyone, particularly President Nixon,

1:41.0

knew it. The White House was basically in chaos. The President himself, personally, was kind

1:46.7

of a mess. The Justice Department was pretty sure at that point that the presidency of Richard

1:52.7

Nixon was going to be cut short. That one way or another, Nixon was not likely to make it to

1:59.3

the end of that term. But when Vice President Spiro Agnew gave that indignant speech, talking

2:06.4

about these people inside the Justice Department who were trying to destroy him, saying he would

2:10.9

refuse to resign even if he was indicted. He was not talking about potential charges stemming

2:17.6

from the Watergate investigation. What Agnew was talking about was his own thing, his own troubles.

2:24.2

He was talking about this. Washington was stunned today by the disclosure that Vice President Agnew

2:30.1

is under criminal investigation by federal authorities in his home state of Maryland.

2:36.1

While the Watergate investigation was front of mind for the whole country, three young federal

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