Hello, hello, and welcome back to another episode of Fluently Forward. I'm here with a very special

guest, Lindsay from We Met Erakme. Welcome to the podcast. Thank you. Thank you for having me.

I'm excited to have you on because we talk about celebrities and pop culture here and obviously

dating and relationships come up. You can't like talk about celebrities without talking about

the relationships that they're in. And I'm excited to get a little bit judgmental with you today

to be honest. Yeah. And then also be it just kind of like vet this advice that celebrities are

giving and how we judge them. And when we judge celebrities at least here for me, we don't know

these people as strangers, but I always think of it as a fun thought exercise because how people

perceive you, it's almost like there's who you are and then there's also how people perceive you.

And as a celebrity, like your job is to do good PR. So I think if a bunch of people hate a celebrity

couple, it's kind of their fault because they have a PR team that's supposed to make them like

a bull. Interesting. Yeah. Interesting. I mean, yes and no, right? Because we do see things so

out of context. And things get like clipped. Things get clipped. But I do agree that like it slips through

the cracks. Like I once almost did a reality show and I was so nervous about it. And I was like,

I what if like I'm cut weirdly? And they were like at the end of the day, no one's like cut

weirdly to become a villain like you, if you suck, you're going to come off like you suck. And if

you're great, people are going to love you. And I was like, that's interesting. And I'm guessing

you didn't end up I didn't end up doing it because I was like, I don't trust any here. I think

the same thing too. I also like, I know I would get cut immediately because I feel like you either

you have to be the villain or like throwing yourself at someone like you have to be big in one

of the categories. You can't just be like the girl. You can't just exist. I mean, it depends on

the type of show, but you can't just exist. That's for sure. What was it? It was a dating show.

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