BAES 152: MUSK V. ALTMAN: The Most Important Trial Ever (ft. Mike Isaac)

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🗓️ 14 May 2026

⏱️ 76 minutes

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This week we've got Mike Isaac from the New York Times giving us the scoop from inside the courtroom at the Elon Musk v. Altman and OpenAI trial in Oakland. Also our newest acid video is out now so check it out! https://youtu.be/7vkFY3f5kkw Give this video a thumbs up if you enjoyed it! And please leave us a comment! It helps us! NEW MERCH OUT! Get 10% off when you sign up and also get bonus content, ad-free versions and more plus your first 7 days free at https://benandemilshow.com ***THE SOUTHWEST COMPANION PASS IS BACK GET IT HERE: https://www.cardratings.com/bestcards/featured-credit-cards?src=691608&shnq=520080,4028088,4048122,4028085,3006151,4048149,4028089,4048084&var2= ***Go check out Ben's movie podcast! https://www.youtube.com/@UCtwCDeHuJTBWUkeQKlLeXhA **CHECK OUT EMIL'S LIVESTREAMS HERE: https://www.youtube.com/emilderosa __ SOME OTHER VIDEOS YOU MAY ENJOY: That's Cringe of Cody Ko: https://youtu.be/dTbEk0pVh2w Our AUSTIN VIDEO: https://youtu.be/yGSs56bFzRU Our episode with Kyla Scanlon: https://youtu.be/cIHWkY35cuc Big Tech is out of ideas (ft. ED ZITRON): https://youtu.be/zBvVGHZBpMw Arguing with a millionaire (ft. Chris Camillo): https://youtu.be/1ZUWTkWV_MM We bought suits HERE: https://youtu.be/_cM1XqA9n2U ***LINK TO OUR DISCORD: https://discord.gg/CjujBt8g ***Subscribe to Emil's Substack: https://substack.com/@emilderosa ***Trade with Ben at https://tradertreehouse.com __ WARBY PARKER: Buy one prescription pair and get 20% off additional pairs at https://warbyparker.com/BAES — using our link helps support the show. #WarbyParker #ad GLD: New customers get 40% off with code BAES at https://gld.com. #ad HIMS: For simple, online access to personalized and affordable care for Hair Loss, ED, Weight Loss, and more, visit https://hims.com/BAES for your free online visit. TIMESTAMPS: 00:0014:50: Intro, why this is happening 14:50-17:25: Warby Parker ad 17:25-30:43: Elon is kinda right, scaring the hoes 30:43-33:05: GLD ad 33:05-45:06: Greg Brockman's journal, Ilya is the good guy 45:06-47:00: Hims ad 47:00-1:00:00: If Elon wins, the bubble popping, how AI fame corrupts 1:00:00-1:15:38: Ari Emanuel, what happens next, music __ Follow us on instagram! @ benandemilshow @ bencahn @ emilderosa Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	I'll now hand you over to my best man, Eddie.
0:04.0	Wow, wow, wow, second time's a charm, eh, Billy Boy?
0:09.0	Oh God.
0:10.0	Substitution, courtesy of Paddy Power embarrassing Eddie makes way for sensible Samuel.
0:15.0	Cool, that was close.
0:16.0	You might not always pick the right starter, but your sub can still deliver.
0:19.0	Because with Paddy's super sub, your bet rolls over to the player coming on. Patti power. Valid on selected leagues and markets only. Pre-match and in-play bets on qualifying player outcome selections only. T's and Clusions apply. 18 plus scummelware. Dot org. Elon Musk is suing Sam Altman for $150 billion. Which is like head and shoulders far and away more than anyone has ever sued anyone for anything.
0:38.3	Right?
0:39.0	That's right.
0:39.7	So what exactly is Elon's side trying to prove in this case?
0:43.7	Elon says he was defrauded out of the idea that this would be a non-profit company.
0:49.5	And a nonprofit company is the only way that AI should be controlled.
0:53.5	To be clear, there should be some kind of legal remedy for someone who invests, I believe
0:58.2	it's $38 million into a foundation that is a nonprofit foundation.
1:03.0	And they rug pull you?
1:04.0	Not only rug pull.
1:05.1	I mean, there's literal written proof of them being like, we're edging this sucker out.
1:10.8	Yeah. Suddenly, the more money you have, the more insulated you probably feel from the door. proof of them being like, we're edging this sucker out.
1:10.9	Yeah.
1:14.9	Suddenly, the more money you have, the more insulated you probably feel from the dumerism that you previously subscribed to.
1:16.8	And then all of a sudden, you're like, I want to go to the Met Gala.
1:19.7	So they literally ran into that problem in the beginning, which is like, oh, fuck, everyone
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