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The Ben and Emil Show

BAES 147: Can Sam Altman be Trusted?

The Ben and Emil Show

Ben and Emil

Comedy

4.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 9 April 2026

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Ronan Farrow at NY Magazine just put out an incredibly long and thorough investigation into Sam Altman: his past companies, dealings, and lies. There's testimony from previous business partners (including the founders of Anthropic). PLUS, we get into the economics of the AI buildout and whether everyone is collectively jumping the gun, and touch a bit on OpenAI's conveniently timed press release about safety. NEW MERCH OUT! Get 10% off when you sign up and also get bonus content, ad-free versions and more plus your first 7 days free at https://benandemilshow.com ***THE SOUTHWEST COMPANION PASS IS BACK GET IT HERE: https://www.cardratings.com/bestcards/featured-credit-cards?src=691608&shnq=520080,4028088,4048122,4028085,3006151,4048149,4028089,4048084&var2= The newest acid video is out now so check it out! https://youtu.be/7vkFY3f5kkw Give this video a thumbs up if you enjoyed it! And please leave us a comment! It helps us! ***Ben's new movies and tv podcast with Dillon is OUT NOW! GO WATCH the latest episode on our TOP MOVIES OF 2025: https://youtu.be/tbC-cMqcby8?si=tO0NK0PmpN2187ir **CHECK OUT EMIL'S LIVESTREAMS HERE: https://www.youtube.com/emilderosa __ SOME OTHER VIDEOS YOU MAY ENJOY: That's Cringe of Cody Ko: https://youtu.be/dTbEk0pVh2w Our AUSTIN VIDEO: https://youtu.be/yGSs56bFzRU Our episode with Kyla Scanlon: https://youtu.be/cIHWkY35cuc Big Tech is out of ideas (ft. ED ZITRON): https://youtu.be/zBvVGHZBpMw Arguing with a millionaire (ft. Chris Camillo): https://youtu.be/1ZUWTkWV_MM We bought suits HERE: https://youtu.be/_cM1XqA9n2U ***LINK TO OUR DISCORD: https://discord.gg/CjujBt8g ***Subscribe to Emil's Substack: https://substack.com/@emilderosa ***Trade with Ben at https://tradertreehouse.com __ QUO: Try QUO for free and get 20% off your first 6 months at https://www.quo.com/BAES RIDGE: Upgrade your wallet today! Get 10% Off @Ridge with code BAES at https://www.Ridge.com/BAES #Ridgepod __ Follow us on instagram! @ benandemilshow @ bencahn @ emilderosa Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Jamie Lang and Sophie Haboo have arrived on Disney Plus.

0:04.0

We're having a baby.

0:06.0

We're having a baby.

0:07.0

I've always wanted to be mom.

0:09.0

And we're bringing you on our journey through everything.

0:12.0

I have no idea what we're doing.

0:13.0

Thank you. I have more of an idea.

0:15.0

I think of it like a Tamagocchi.

0:17.0

At the end of all of this...

0:20.0

We're going to have a little baby. Raising Chelsea, a Hulu

0:23.7

original series streaming exclusively on Disney Plus. 18 plus subscription required T's and T supply.

0:30.0

This week we're talking all about Sam Altman again. This massive 18 month, 18 month investigation

0:35.7

done by, uh, what's his name ronan pharaoh and another guy who

0:40.1

no one's going to remember yeah nobody cares about that guy i don't understand what the where this

0:44.7

charisma is because i sure haven't seen but here's another tech executive he's unbelievably persuasive

0:50.4

like jettine mind tricks he's just next level shut up even a technical guy. I thought that he was a coder whiz, the inventor of large

1:00.1

language models or something. He's the inventor of looped?

1:02.8

There's been a lot of criticisms about this and some assholes about this article.

1:07.6

You can't be gay and write an article now?

1:09.3

No, someone came to, someone came to Sam Altman's defense and said,

1:13.9

Ronan Farrow is just a jealous gay guy. That's how,

1:16.6

that's how gay guys are. They're catty and they,

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