Bad with Money? Get Better with Tori Dunlap

We Can Do Hard Things

Glennon Doyle & Audacy

Society & Culture, Relationships, Education, Self-improvement

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🗓️ 29 July 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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432. Bad with Money? Get Better with Tori Dunlap Glennon, Abby, and Amanda are doing something they've never done—talk about money. It's one of the most vulnerable topics, especially for women, where silence and shame still dominate. Joining them is Tori Dunlap—New York Times bestselling author and feminist finance expert—to help break the stigma, spark the conversation, and guide us toward financial freedom. -How shame—not numbers—is often the biggest barrier to financial well-being-Why women are conditioned to shrink around money and how to reclaim power-Using money as a tool for safety, agency, and freedom-Practical steps to begin healing your relationship with money, starting today Tori Dunlap is the Author of the instant New York Times bestselling book “Financial Feminist”; host of the #1 Business Podcast, Financial Feminist; and co-creator of Treasury, an investing education platform that has over $82M invested. After saving $100,000 at age 25, Tori quit her corporate job in marketing and founded Her First $100K to fight financial inequality by giving women actionable resources to better their money. She has helped over five million women negotiate salary, pay off debt, build savings, and invest. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Tori Dunlap is the author of the Instant New York Times bestselling book Financial Feminist,
0:16.2	host of the number one business podcast, Financial Feminist and co-creator of Treasury, an investing
0:21.9	education platform that has over $82 million invested. She has helped over 5 million women negotiate
0:28.6	salary, pay off debt, build savings and invest. And really, as you'll hear in this episode,
0:35.9	sort of change their entire stories that they have around money.
0:40.4	Because I am so terrified to talk about money, this is the first conversation I think I've
0:44.8	ever had publicly about money.
0:47.6	So, sweatily, let us jump in.
0:52.4	Tori!
1:10.9	I'm so excited to meet you. Hi, everybody. Tori, what a treat. When we got to the part in your book with the Glennon and Together Rising shout out, we were like, what? It was so exciting. We were texting each other like, oh, that's so exciting. I can't cry this early. This is my goal is to get through this interview without crying. Oh. Yeah. I'm so excited to be here. Thank you for having me. We're really grateful.
1:14.6	I'm really grateful for you. Big fan. I follow you. I listen to all your advice. You're wonderful. That's very sweet. Abby, do you know that you and I have met? I'm about to tell the most embarrassing story that's ever happened to me. Okay, so Abby, you and I have met. It was 2019.
1:12.2	I was in my early 20 2019. I was in my early
1:29.4	20s. I was with my mentor in Seattle and we were about to hear Liz Gilbert speak. And this has been,
1:37.2	yeah, I've seen her a couple times. I met her in college very briefly and told her,
1:41.4	you're who I hope to be when I grow up. And she goes, no, you're who I
1:44.3	hope to be when I grew up, which was the sweetest. And there's this woman sitting next to us.
1:50.3	And this person in the audience comes up to this woman and goes, oh my gosh, I'm so sorry,
1:55.5	but can I have a photo? And this person gracefully says, of course. And my mentor who's so sweet,
2:00.8	she's like my second mom,
2:02.1	and she's so curious and so kind, but had no idea who this woman was, and goes, hi, I'm sorry,
2:08.8	like, who are you? And she goes, oh, I'm Abby. And my mentor goes, what do you do for work? And Abby goes,
2:16.0	ah, I used to play soccer. And this woman in front of us whips around and goes, what do you do for work? And Abby goes, ah, I used to play soccer. And this woman in front of
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