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The Story Collider

Bad News: Stories about tough conversations

The Story Collider

Story Collider, Inc.

Performing Arts, Society & Culture, Arts, Personal Journals, Science

4.4824 Ratings

🗓️ 21 November 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

In this week’s episode, both storytellers must navigate heartbreaking dilemmas as they try to figure out how to convey crushing news.

Part 1: While doing fieldwork in the Congo, Stella Mayerhoff must track down a local researcher to deliver devastating news.

Part 2: During his second year of residency, Sam Blackman is tasked with caring for a dying child whose mother’s unwavering faith clashes with his scientific approach.

Stella Mayerhoff is a primatologist turned science communicator. As a scientist, Stella traveled the world—from Puerto Rico to the Democratic Republic of Congo—studying various primate species. She now draws inspiration from her time in the field, writing to share the sense of adventure and real-world impact that science offers. Stella has written for Georgia State’s College of Arts & Sciences, Georgia State University Research Magazine, and Science ATL, and is currently pursuing a master’s degree in Science Communication at UC Santa Cruz. When she’s not chasing a story, Stella enjoys spending her time with her cat, TBD, who owes his perfectly odd name to a moment of writer’s block.

Sam Blackman is a physician-scientist and pediatric oncologist. He's was founder and former head of research and development at Day One Biopharmaceuticals, a company focused on drug development for childhood cancers. He’s currently an entrepreneur-in-residence at Google Ventures. Sam is an avid storyteller, baker of bread, and recently climbed Mt. Kilimanjaro. Sam lives on Orcas Island with his wife, having successfully launched their first and only child off to college.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

A science story, huh?

0:04.0

Is NYU scientist the...

0:06.0

It felt...

0:07.0

I was so...

0:09.0

And I just thought, well...

0:10.0

It was that golden moment.

0:12.0

Because science was on my side.

0:15.0

Hey, everyone. Hey everyone and welcome to The Story Clutter.

0:26.2

We're true personal stories about science help us explore what it really means to be a human.

0:30.1

I'm your host, Misha Gayevsky.

0:32.2

In today's episode, both of our storytellers find themselves in those impossible moments,

0:36.3

when you have to say something no one wants to hear, when the truth itself feels heavy and words don't feel like enough.

0:42.6

These are the kinds of conversations most of us spend our lives trying to avoid. The ones that

0:47.5

test our empathy, our courage, and sometimes our sense of who we are. But they're also the

0:52.1

moments that connect us most deeply to one another. Let's dive in.

0:55.7

Our first story today comes from primatologist turned science communicator, Stella Mayeroff.

1:00.5

Her story is recorded in Atlanta at our go-to-spot Waller's coffee shop. Here's Stella. As a child, I loved Saturday mornings.

1:18.2

I would run downstairs and I would look through a collection of VHS tapes.

1:22.5

And I would search one by one with each tape passing up every 90s kid's favorite movie.

1:28.8

Matilda? No. The Sandlot? No. The Lion King? No. Until I found it. A documentary all about Ocean Explorer Jacques Cousteau.

1:42.4

Now this may have single-handedly ruined any chances of me as an adult

1:46.6

winning 90s trivia, but the countless mornings that I spent watching that movie instilled in me a love

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