Hello and welcome to Overthink, the podcast where we talk about all things that are good and bad in the world.

And sometimes in between or neither good nor bad.

I'm your co-host, Dr. Ellie Anderson. And I am your co-host, Dr. David Pena-Gusman. And today,

indeed, we are talking about the bad or the good bad because we are talking about why it's

okay to love bad movies.

David, would you consider yourself a bad movie lover?

I'm not.

I am a good movie lover.

I'm actually very bougie and extremely unbearable in my movie taste.

But occasionally I run into a movie that is just so bad that it's good,

but I wait for that judgment to be made for me by time.

So I will, I'll like showdown with a cult classic that people agree is bad by conventional standards.

Okay. And I wouldn't actually even consider you a boogey movie lover. I would consider you a pretentious.

You're like more of an art house type of guy, right? And this is, I mean,

anytime you're recommending a movie to me, it's like the new Cronenberg film. I would say I have

much more liberal movie taste. Like I'm down for a Criterion Collection Night, but I basically

was raised on Ashley and whatever her name is, like the twins. Yeah, Mary Kane Ashley, but I was also raised on Ashley and whatever her name is, like the twins. Yeah, Marri King Ashley,

but I was also raised on like kind of B movies from the 40s to 60s. My mom and I loved watching

TCM, the Turner Classic Movie Channel growing up. And one of the things that I really like about

TCM is you just like turn it on back in the day.

I know now we're streaming most things, but you just turn it on.

And sometimes the movie would be an incredible Oscar winner.

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