Pitaia.

Hi everyone, I'm Joanna, and this is hyphenated, the podcast about living in the hyphen.

This week, Jenny couldn't make it, so I invited our producer Kevin to join me for this,

for this conversation. Kevin, you know what's something interesting about your voice?

Yeah. You're like, I feel like you could be one of the voices in those apps that help you sleep.

Because while I'm like, I mean, I can't believe it. You're like, yeah, I was just talking to my mom and turns out she's not really my mom.

I was adopted and I guess I just found that out.

So, like, that's you.

So you're saying I put you to sleep.

Thank you.

In the best way.

For someone with anxiety to say your voice could aid me in falling asleep, that's a good sign.

That's a good sign that you're more peaceful person that I'm accustomed to.

Yes.

Yeah, thanks.

You did a good job at walking that back.

So, Kevin, I wanted to invite you on the podcast this week because, well, one, Jenny

last minute said she could make it.

And two, two, because actually you're someone that I think will appreciate this conversation.

So I feel like as you get older, and here I am speaking as if I'm like 80, but as you get older,

people start asking you for advice, right?

Yeah.

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