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Christmas Past

Backstory: Mince Pies

Christmas Past

Brian Earl

History, Society & Culture, Holidays, Kids & Family, Christmas

4.9791 Ratings

🗓️ 13 December 2020

⏱️ 14 minutes

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Summary

The mince pie is one of the least understood, most maligned, and sometimes subversive Christmas traditions we have. And yet, it’s still here. With its pastry crust and spiced — and often, boozy — fruit filling, it’s a survivor. And its story touches on hallucinogens, Prohibition, food preservation, the Puritans, and a Christmas dessert with a bad-boy reputation. A dessert that’s as American as, well...as American as mince pie. Thanks to Veronique Greenwood for appearing in this episode....

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0:00.0

In 1907, the Trenton Times newspaper reported on a strange and tragic occurrence involving

0:08.1

one Albert Allen of Chicago and his wife, who was found dead of a gunshot wound.

0:13.8

A gunshot wound from Albert Allen's gun.

0:26.2

Now, if you've ever read a detective novel or watched an episode of Law and Order,

0:31.1

you know that when investigating a suspect for homicide, you're looking for three things.

0:34.2

The means, motive, and opportunity.

0:37.1

Albert Allen certainly had the opportunity. He and his wife lived together

0:39.0

naturally, and she was shot while she slept. He had the means because he owned a gun. But did he

0:45.7

have a motive? Well, possibly. And while we don't have the details of their life together,

0:51.3

he denied any of the common motives in cases like this,

0:54.7

like a fit of rage or jealousy, or attempting to collect on a life insurance policy.

0:59.9

No, Albert Allen made a rather unusual claim.

1:04.2

The mince pies made him do it.

1:07.6

The newspaper quoted him as saying,

1:09.8

I ate three pieces of mince pie at 11 o'clock and got to dreaming that I was shaking dice.

1:16.0

The other fellow was cheating and I tried to shoot his fingers off.

1:19.8

When I awoke, I was holding a pistol in my hand, and my wife was shot.

1:25.7

Now, I have a feeling that old Albert Allen was making an excuse and an absurdly

1:30.5

flimsy one at that. But what's surprising to anyone listening nowadays is that blaming mince

1:35.5

pies was something that anyone would even think to try back in 1907. And if you think that's

1:41.0

surprising, well, we are just getting warmed up, because the mince pie is one of the least understood, most maligned, and sometimes subversive

1:50.1

Christmas traditions we have. And yet, it's still here. With its pastry crust and spiced and

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