Welcome to Kaffiru cast everyone. I'm riding solo on the mic. Frank Detank is in Idaho playing with a couple Mormons actually Matt Davis and Jordan Cower. They're on a bear hunt and I actually I have a very, very good friend of mine who

entrepreneur slash mountain climbers slash all kinds of stuff bow hunter. Kindle card from what all do you own black ovates, camouflage, crispy, what all you got your hands involved in?

That that sums it up for now. We might I might have a few other things that might sleep. Can't sit still for too long.

And I've given you the nickname Icabald Crane. I hope you don't mind. I mentioned this on a couple podcasts. Oh, I'm I'm feeling me. I appreciate you coming on though.

Yeah, no, had I heard that Icabald Crane thing? Maybe I wouldn't come on. You never heard that before? No, I've listened to I listened to yours kind of selectively.

Oh, was that because we dropped too many F lawns or that it's part of it. No, I'm like most of it's just time. I bounce around back and forth. But no, I'll do it. I'm cool. I roll basically whatever.

So, oh, gotcha. Yeah. No, somebody else mentioned that to me and then I thought about it. And I'm like, well, he does have a long neck. You are a tall dude. How tall are you?

Six four. But my kids tell me I'm shrinking a little bit. Oh, gotcha. Well, what's I maybe getting old?

Your in scenes got to be that of two men. You look like you can hike up a store. How long is your panting?

I think just 34 or 35. Yeah, I have guys I hike with that are like I have to take every I've take two steps to my one step.

Oh, I'm sure. Well, you kind of came from backpacking background as well though not backpacking but backpacking and climbing skiing. I mean, you were.

I mean, you've always hunted but you have quite a background in all things outdoors really. I mean, give for those who don't don't know. Obviously, you are.

Are you is that the base in charge of crispy in North America or how does that work exactly?

Yeah, so we about three and a half years ago, Mark and my business partner and friend and I took over the distributor ship for crispy here in North America. And so we represent.

And then we purposely focused on hunting crispy that always made hunting boots since what 43 years they've been making boots. So we decided to primarily focus just on the hunting market.

We do have a couple of boot your shoes kind of targeted towards outdoor and a couple of military kind of, you know, police boots but mostly designing to that.

So yeah, we go to the factory every year. Couple times sometimes and then it worked on new boots and what you know, upgrading and fixing stuff that maybe isn't performing.

You know, perfectly or is perfect to do. Can some death of a dude with crispy.

Johnson and then you started with your partner camo fire. So for all of you poor guys out there that can only go hunting with cool stuff because of camo fire. Thank Kindle card cinnamon email.

I was welcome. Hey, not just the poor guys like there's a week one day we were one of our guys was shipping these like is this package for real. This is about two years ago.

And it was Donald Trump Jr. was buying something we're like maybe this is weird billing address was fifth Avenue and shipping address was some fancy place in upstate New York. So rich guys are also shopping on camo fire.

I I used to shop on camo fire. I mean luckily now I don't have to pay for anything. So I don't have to shop much anymore. It just shows up and then you know, I got a garage full of stuff. Amy yelling at me get rid of it. But no camo fires awesome. And then you also on black Ovis, which I've been to your place many times.

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