Backlash Reaction, WWE’s Reported Pay Cut Requests, and Jack Perry’s Pending Free Agency

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4.4 • 1.4K Ratings

🗓️ 11 May 2026

⏱️ 84 minutes

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COLD OPEN QUESTION OF THE WEEK: What would Kaz’s version of a "John Cena Classic" look like?David and Kaz kick off the show comparing Kaz’s New York Knicks to Cody Rhodes and Roman Reigns before recapping everything that happened at Backlash this past weekend. They get into: Whether Backlash was partly the WrestleMania show WWE’s writing team actually wanted to put together Is the Seth Rollins-Bron Breakker feud over? Why this Trick Williams-Sami Zayn match was better than their WrestleMania match (and take a slight detour into Zayn and other WWE superstars’ reported pay cuts) Asuka’s potential retirement Danhausen’s mainstream appeal How strong Jacob Fatu came out of the main event Whose stock rose most after the PLE? They close out the show talking Darby Allin’s successful AEW World Championship defense over PAC at Fairway to Hell, as well as Jack Perry’s pending free agency and if he could potentially be WWE-bound. Subscribe to the⁠⁠ Ringer Wrestling YouTube channel!⁠ Be sure to follow us on⁠ BlueSky⁠,⁠ TikTok⁠,⁠ Instagram, Threads⁠, and⁠ X⁠. Hosts: David Shoemaker and Kazeem Famuyide Producer: Ben Cruz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Cold open question of the week, Kaz.
0:10.5	What's up, Shoes?
0:12.5	At Backlash on Saturday, about which more later, the goat, as he has known, John Sina, announced something called the John Sina Classic,
0:25.0	a new tournament where main roster stars compete against NXT stars, but they don't really
0:32.8	compete for a win because you get to choose who wins, even though it's a wrestling.
0:38.0	I'm not going to think too hard about it.
0:39.9	Let me ask you this.
0:42.0	If you get to have a Kaz Classic, what would the tournament be?
0:48.2	What shape would it be?
0:49.5	What would be the goal?
0:51.7	How would you determine the winner?
0:53.9	All right.
0:55.0	The Kaz Classic, anybody knows me.
0:58.6	It would be 275 pound minimum.
1:04.1	Wait.
1:04.6	Minimum to answer.
1:06.1	Working weight or work weight or shoot weight?
1:09.0	Shoot weight.
1:10.3	Like you can't even get into the joint if you're not too 75 above, right?
1:15.2	We're going for the cartoonishly largest motherfuckers on the planet, putting them in a tournament to crown the biggest mediest, bumpiest, manliest,
1:29.3	men match you could make.
1:32.2	You know what I mean?
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