Patagonia has just launched a podcast, Patagonia Stories. In each episode,

host our Chana Rom will explore how we gather knowledge and ask questions about our relationship

to each other in the natural world. Questions like, how are lessons passed down through generations

to help us feel at home? What barriers prevent us from acquiring natural wisdom? How can we adapt

in the face for rapidly changing climate? There's so much more to come. You can find the first season

of Patagonia Stories wherever you get your podcasts.

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Do you know what the deep end theory is? Have you ever heard of that?

No, is it like throwing a kid into the deep end so they learn to swim faster?

Yeah, I mean, yes, they're right. It's this idea of that if you want to learn something,

if you want to progress quickly, if you want to reach a level of competency quite quickly,

is that you put somebody in the deep end that you get thrown in or you throw yourself in the deep end

and you go from there? And there are totally...

Like language immersion? Exactly. 100%. Like that idea. We see that all across all sorts of

different applications, you know, language, mountain climbing.

And we got a story today about this sort of like idea of diving into the deep end of just

going full commitment. And I think it's a fascinating thing because I remember

one of our first team members at the Dr. Backdarrick Duck Tape and Beer Dr. Backdarrick's

was a really, really talented guy on a lot of levels. He was really good at editing and really

good at visual stuff and you know, was it really good at photography? And he was with us for a while

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