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Back to School: Origins of the Pledge

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🗓️ 20 August 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Children say it every day in school, but have you ever wondered why we recite the pledge of allegiance? We journey back to the late 1800s to understand how a massive wave of immigration and sagging magazine subscriptions gave rise to this vow of patriotism. From the Civil War to anti-immigrant nativism and Cold War politics, this one pledge tells many stories. 

Guests: 

Debbie Schaefer-Jacobs, curator for the history of education collection at the Smithsonian’s National Museum of American History

Marc Leepson, author of Flag: An American Biography

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey there, side dorables. It's that time again. Bag lunches, fresh notebooks, tearful goodbyes,

0:07.4

the smell of fresh eraser. That's right, back to school. But while the kids and teens,

0:13.8

and maybe even you college students, are heading back to class, we're still a few weeks away from

0:18.8

the start of our new season. I'm actually at the beach

0:21.4

right now. Just kidding, I'm not. But you can pretend I am. Let's just imagine I'm at the beach.

0:26.7

Until our new season kicks off, we've curated a playlist of our favorite episodes from other shows

0:32.1

and our own back catalog. And since it's back to school time, we wanted to bring you an episode

0:37.3

on the Pledge of Allegiance.

0:40.3

Where did it come from and how did it become a staple in the American classroom?

0:45.3

Turns out, it's had quite the evolution over the years.

0:49.7

So we hope you enjoy our episode about the pledge.

0:52.8

The new season starts soon.

0:54.9

Oh, and don't forget to bring an apple for your teacher.

1:06.9

This is Side Door, a podcast from the Smithsonian with support from PRX.

1:11.4

I'm Lizzie Peabody.

1:25.6

There are a couple of sounds that immediately take me right back to school.

1:27.7

And the school bell is one of them.

1:30.0

This is one of many school bells that we have that has an eagle on the top.

1:39.0

This is Debbie Schaefer Jacobs.

1:41.0

She's curator for the History of Education Collection at the Smithsonian's National

1:44.8

Museum of American History. So we have them with eagles, we have them with Liberty Bells, we have,

1:51.3

you know, a lot of patriotic school bells. Debbie's showing me some of the things you might find

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