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So

So this so this came up the other day in conversation

We've been talking about this for years when it comes to presidential elections that for instance

Debates are about the stupidest way to try to compare two candidates

Well, so-called debates which aren't debates. Oh, no, they aren't debates in any way yet the media acts like they are in at the end

They they ask who do you think won and it's just the whole thing is stupid

Yeah, and now we've moved on to these town hall creations which I like better than the debates, but

We we've always just been wondering what what's the best way to pick a president of the United States seems like we go about it in a terrible way

Let's introduce our guest Lonnie Chen the host of the podcast crossing lines with Lonnie Chen David and Diane Steffi research fellow to Hoover institution also the director of domestic policy studies and lecture at

Stanford University Lonnie how are you sir?

Good morning. Good to be with you. Good morning

So at the end of our discussion last time around the topic came up of the primaries and how they've changed and how they often yield

Unelectable candidates and then we're talking about what you thought would be the best way for the parties to boil down the would be candidates and pick somebody

You want to start with the jacks topics there the so-called debates are idiotic in our minds. What would be better than that?

Well, you guys have a great point about debates. I mean, I've you know, I've been involved in

four presidential campaigns and been in a senior role in two of them and what I can tell you about these debates is

that they're nothing more than theater and and the challenges instead of having a real discussion about issues

What you really have are you know one to two-minute position statements

That are really about posturing and about trying to to appeal to certain constituencies rather than really trying to answer the question

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