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Thea Hey, and welcome to back it up with Hammerling Legends. This is your host with the most, Jack Merkel, and I'm going to back it up with Hammerlin Legends. This is your host with the most, Jack Merkel, and welcome to Back It Up with Hammerling Legends.

This is your host with the most, Jack Merkel, and I'm here to deliver you the goods on a Friday.

I hope you've had a great week and enjoyed the week.

Sometimes it's tough to enjoy the week, especially when you're working hard and shifting gears.

But, well, maybe not shifting gears for all of you.

But in this case,

I hope you had a good week and enjoyed the time you spent doing what you're doing, on the road,

off the road, whatever it is.

Anyway, we've got a good one for you guys this week with episode 90, owning a trucking company.

We were joined in studio at that time. This was by guest,

Brian Shipper, now host Brian Shipper. And he was also on the call was his friend Jeff Hamill,

who has a plethora of experience in the industry behind the scenes owning a company management.

He was Shipper's terminal manager. and this was a ridiculously good podcast.

It was a two-hour-long podcast was awesome. We got into the nitty gritty of what it's like to own a company,

what it's like to run a company, how to handle drivers, how to handle routes and get, you know,

new customers and even just what it's like to be,

terminal manager, everything. I mean, on top of that, there's always the driver's takes,

there's always the experience from the road, there's always, you know, back and forth on what

it's like to be driving in the industry. And this was just fantastic. It's so much fun to have people on who

are talking about the experiences they've had, if they've either dabbled in owning a company,

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