I'm Claire Fallon and I'm Emma Gray.

And this is Love to See It, an obsessively detailed recap podcast about reality dating

shows like The Bachelor and other pop culture that makes us laugh, cry, and curse the patriarchy.

We can't live with these shows and we can't live without them, but we can break down every

juicy moment and unpack all the weird messages these shows send us about love, sex, and dating.

Welcome to Love to See It, a podcast about knitting your way to true love.

And hopefully finding out who the real Joey is and the real Dotten and the real Aaron and

the real Xavier by meeting all of their families.

Some of them in suspiciously jipped coreless homes that might be Airbnb's, like wherever

Dotten's family was in Fresno, but here to discuss Charity's hometowns and her truly excellent

taste in men, I think, is Alex Sujong Loughlin, producer extraordinaire of Normal Gossip.

Alex, welcome to the pod.

I can't believe you haven't been here before.

I am so excited to be here.

Long time listener, first time caller.

I'm so excited to chat with you.

This is a great episode too to dive into because, man, this is one of my favorite hometowns,

I think, so far out of all the seasons.

Yeah.

Nobody was destroyed.

Right?

Huge, huge, huge, huge, I mean, I just, I loved all of these families.

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