I'm Claire Fallon and I'm Emma Gray and this is Love to See It, an obsessively detailed

recap podcast about the bachelor and other pop culture that makes us laugh, cry, and curse

the patriarchy. We can't live with these shows and we can't live without them, but we

can break down every juicy moment and unpack all the weird messages these shows send us

about love, sex, and dating.

Welcome to Love to See It, a podcast about balls and explosions.

Get your head out of the gutter, guys. We're obviously talking about basket balls and science

experiments because we're here today to discuss Michelle's season of the bachelor at.

It's just no place to have your head in the gutter. Michelle, she's a teacher. She's also

a baller. Have you heard she contains multitudes? Wow. I mean, breaking news to me, but I'm

glad you let me know those two distinct and mutually exclusive parts of Michelle's personality.

Here to discuss this dichotomy is Stephanie McNeil, a Buzzfeed reporter who covers Internet

culture and a newbie to this pod. Thank you so much for joining us, Stephanie.

Guys, thank you so much for having me. I'm absolutely thrilled to be here. We're so excited.

We have loved reading whenever you dip your toe, very deep into bachelor world and to have

you more on the commentary side. Now we're really excited. Yeah, it is a treat. And I just

side note, encourage all of our listeners to go read Stephanie's reporting because it

is fantastic. Oh, well, thank you. I the bachelor world is kind of like my side hustle. I don't

report on, I mean, there's people who report on the bachelor like there, that is their gig,

that is like, I don't really want to report on it every single day, but every once in a

while, I'm kind of like, you know what? Let's turn about the bachelor. Yeah, no, be careful.

It started out as a side hustle for us too. And look at it now. It's a cautionary time, a real

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