What if Jordan went in with the wrong intentions, but it's like how to lose a guy in 10 days?

And he's like at first it was just for my job, but then I really fell in love with you.

Welcome to Here to Make Friends, a half-post podcast about the Bachelor franchise where we lovingly snark on the Bachelor and Bachelor of

Jason shows. Whether you love the Bachelor or love to hate it, we're here to break down every single delicious moment with you.

I'm Emma Gray and I'm Claire Fallon.

Take a trip back. Way, way back to a time when women had to alope, possibly escaping through a window at night if their

fathers didn't give permission for their marriages. So like around the 18th century. Yeah, or like maybe the

1950s or apparently 2016 if you live in Joel Fletcher's Princess Castle because last night was all about Robby and Jordan

getting her pops permission to propose even during the parts of the episode when you think we get a break from it.

No rest for the weary Claire. Here to talk through the Victorian style romance of it all with us. We've a very special guest, Olivia Cariti here.

Thanks so much for joining us, Olivia. Thanks for having me.

Where even to start. First, first things first. JoJo introduces both of her gentlemen callers to her parents.

I was really excited to see her family again. I feel like they had a really solid showing during

Ben season. Her mom was drinking champagne straight from the bottle. Her brothers were being overly aggressive. So I was

interested to see how they would play at this time. I was expecting a lot more.

They were so very tonic. I tweeted like when are the brothers going to go insane or something? Like I've

been waiting for this for an entire season. And it's funny because both of these guys are so much doucheier than Ben.

Well, that's what I was saying is like knowing Ben and knowing he had a problem with or you know,

trouble with the brothers. I was like, how how does that really Jordan and Robby are not going to survive this?

I don't I don't get that. But you know, it was a very sweet meeting of the family, which I was

yeah, not expecting. They were very welcoming to work. They were. It really makes me feel like her

brothers are not really looking for a good guy for her so much as just someone equally doodly as them.

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