I'm Claire Fallon and I'm Emma Gray and this is Love to See It, an obsessively detailed

recap podcast about reality dating shows like The Bachelor and other pop culture that makes us laugh, cry, and curse the patriarchy.

We can't live with these shows and we can't live without them, but we can break down every juicy moment and unpack all the weird messages these shows send us about love, sex, and dating.

Welcome to Love to See It, a podcast about the ongoing love affair between the NFL and the Bachelor franchise.

Love really is a full contact sport. Just like, you know, full contact sports.

Nothing says romance to me like a concussion, you know, that's because I'm an American.

Just like a little CTE as a treat on top of your romantic Sunday.

Today joining us for the first time to recap are the wonderful co-hosts of the She's All Batch podcast, Stephanie Parker and Jackie Maroney.

Thank you guys so much for being here.

Thank you for having us. We're excited.

Yeah, this is a meaty one for us to dig into.

Got our first big drama of the season. We got some genuine, seeming love connections forming.

This is what we do this for.

I would say this is probably the first time in a long time. We're throughout the whole episode.

I was glued to my TV and I genuinely didn't know what was going to happen, especially this early on. I feel like that's unusual.

It usually doesn't get that exciting until we get to week eight, but I was pretty into it this episode.

I think my favorite thing about Zach as a lead is that he is willing to just send someone home at the most random times.

It's a good quality.

During a conversation that most times would go like, no, I'm so glad you're here and I'm happy to keep building our connection.

He's just like, you know what? No, I don't like you.

And I never see it coming.

And people that you would think we're going to stick around.

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