Colton is not the person I'd pick. Like is he known for being really good at Snapchat?

I don't think so. I have no idea. I haven't used Snapchat since Instagram Stories.

Because we're in our 30s! Welcome to Here to Make Friends, a half-post podcast about the

Bachelor franchise where we lovingly snark on the Bachelor and Bachelor adjacent shows.

Whether you love the Bachelor or love to hate it, we're here to break down every single

delicious moment with you. I'm Emma Gray and I'm Claire Fallon.

So Emma and I learned so much last night from the Bachelor. It was truly illuminating. Like I learned

that it's so brave of me to admit that I'm 31 in public. Like how do I even have the bravery to

exit my apartment each day? Thanks, Demi. I mean honestly, you know what's brave? Continuing to

recap this show into our 30s. Honestly, heroes. We are the real heroes, you're right.

And another brave 30-something hero joining us today. Actress, Women to the Front, Co-Founder,

and Bachelor van Aaron Dark.

Hello, I feel really brave today. Yeah. Welcome back to the pod. I mean, I'm sure you just

have a renewed sense of like, wow, I'm amazing. I mean, I did for a little while and then I was like,

but wait, I'm 34. So is that still brave? Am I just like a spinster who should shut myself inside

and never come out again? You became a spinster at 26. Okay. Yeah. 27. You're a brave spinster

until I would say 40 at which point. Okay. You become a tragic spinster. Right. So right now,

I'm a brave spinster. But if I get a cat, does that shorten to I have to shut myself away at like

37? Yeah, that might be a real cool cool cool. Yeah, yeah. Again, if you get a cat and you still

convince a man to marry you. Well, then I mean, he has like, I mean, extra, extra metals for that.

I mean, honestly, nothing to me encapsulates the show more than three young-ish white women sitting

around congratulating themselves on how brave they are. And that's the vibe I really want to carry

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