It was 99% women have never been our lives suck. Yeah, really our lives suck. I mean J.J.

Are you like starting to get tired of all the female attention by now? Like are you like over it?

Welcome to Here to Make Friends a half post podcast about the bachelor franchise where we lovingly snark on the bachelor and

bachelor adjacent shows. Whether you love the bachelor or love to hate it, we're here to break down every single delicious moment with you.

I'm Emma Gray and I'm Claire Fallon.

So at the top of the show you heard Nick Vile and J.J. Lane who stopped by our studio to fill us in on Janor's wedding and

their thoughts on this season and their Valentine's Day bachelor auction, which I was in attendance for.

I can't wait to hear all about that so sad to have missed it. The interview is so so entertaining take my word and you'll get to hear it after

the recap. It was so sad to do the interview without Emma, J.J. and Nick. We're like where is Emma?

But we finally got them in the studio and we'll have to get them back sometime when Emma's here to share in the joy.

If J.J. and Nick aren't enough for you, we also have Chris Harrison. Emma had the chance to talk to him after A.O. Bill Blast week.

Thanks for taking the time to chat with us today, Chris.

Appreciate you having me.

So we're on season 20 of the bachelor, which is pretty crazy. What have you learned about love and reality TV over the last 20 seasons?

Well, reality TV has changed so I mean, it really has changed so much. I mean, it was in its infancy that I mean, Survivor, it was on one season and then the bachelor came around.

And so it was just so new. I mean, you know, what's so commonplace now was groundbreaking that I mean, look at a rose ceremony. We didn't know what that was.

We had to invent that on night one. And so, you know, now my daughter, who's 12 years old, could probably come in and produce and direct it because she's seen it so many times.

We're back then, you know, all these things that you take for granted didn't exist. And so it has changed. And, you know, we went through the gross out crazy factor of TV where, you know, it was like close to like killing a human on live TV for ratings to kind of snapping back as things tend to do.

And now we're back to, you know, the strongest have survived. And those franchises are still around. And it's crazy that we are still here after 15 years.

Yeah, I mean, I know that myself and my co-host Claire love live tweeting it. So it's a lot of fun for us.

I mean, talk about something has changed is like exactly that. I mean, you couldn't do that when the show started. It was group viewing, you know, it was kind of like the Super Bowl.

You wanted to watch together. You would call people, but there wasn't the social media behind it. And, you know, you couldn't snapchat. You couldn't tweet.

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