You've chosen to wait until marriage,

and that's because of your faith.

And it's funny, because I'm sort of the opposite.

And I was like, what?

Like, I did the fact, guys.

It's just a case you were confused.

I did it for God, so yeah.

My God believes in doing it as much as possible.

Welcome to Here to Make Friends, a half-post podcast about the Bachelor franchise,

where we lovingly snark on the Bachelor and Bachelor adjacent shows.

Whether you love the Bachelor or love to hate it,

we're here to break down every single delicious moment with you.

I'm Emma Gray, and I'm Claire Fallon.

So this week, the girls took things to the next level with Ben and the viewing public.

On today's episode, we'll discuss cake dancing,

wearing a white dress to a stranger's wedding, and twins.

Down to one twin.

Plus, we're joined by Charlene Joint, who's an opera singer, columnist,

and former Bachelor contestant from Juan Pablo's season.

Thanks so much for joining us, Charlene.

Thank you for having me, ladies.

And before we get into this week's episode, we would just love to get a little update about you.

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