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Bachelor Nation's 2025 Naughty or Nice List — PART TWO

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🗓️ 18 December 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Stefanie and Jackie are making a list, checking it twice, and seeing who from Bachelor Nation is ending up on the naughty or nice list. Make sure to listen to part 1 first!

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0:00.0

She said it because of his wet blanket energy. Unhinsed. That's actually unhidden. All right. And we're back for part two. We had to take a little break, but let's jump right back into where we were. Cat is O is next. Nice, I think. What did she ever do? That was naughty. But this year especially, what did, what did she do? I mean, she fought with Sean and Ali Shia. Well, she was the victim of that. And she got with Dale and now they're broken up. Yeah, but that's it. And she came on our podcast and didn't go on anyone else's. So nice. Yes, nice. Agreed. Um, Dale, so we don't know what happened. But I am more inclined to put Dale on the naughty list

0:38.5

just because I feel like this is two for two. And the women that you're dating who are no longer

0:45.4

with you are like queens. And I just feel like I trust their opinion. Yeah, but we don't know

0:51.5

what happened. It's vibes, though. And I'm allowed to base a decision. Yeah, you're allowed to base on vibes. I think I may go nice on this one because, like, people are allowed to break up. I don't think that inherently makes you naughty. The one thing that I do think is a red flag is that, like, Kat is clearly very unhappy with him post breakup. up. And if it was just kind of like a, hey, this isn't working out.

1:14.5

We're both, we both want different things.

1:15.7

Let's just break up and it was mature.

1:17.9

I don't think Kat would be as unhappy with him and publicly.

1:22.4

Obviously, it's natural to feel upset privately in a breakup.

1:26.4

But so he must have done something. But we don't, again, we feel like it was messy. Let's see, hold on. But we don't know. And who's to say, like, Kat didn't also have a part in it? Like, we really don't know. So Kat doesn't follow Dale, but Dale follows Kat. So, like, the beef seems like she's, she doesn't like him.

1:44.5

He seems to be, or at least he's not going to publicly unfollow her yet.

1:48.9

So I'm inclined to believe that Dale did the dirty work.

1:53.6

So Santa, do your own research on this one.

1:56.8

I just feel like, I don't know, he kissed Allie Joe and then lied about it.

1:59.9

Like I'm sure I could find something on him.

2:01.5

But, you know, he did let cat sit and drink wine while he set up the tent in the wilderness. True. That's nice. I'm going to say nice because the aspects of naughty, we don't know. Okay, fine. That is fair. You know what? I don't want my record to get penalized because I'm haphazardly throwing people on the naughty list.

2:20.8

Right, right, right.

2:21.3

You're not, you got to be thorough. Yes. And I want to be, I have integrity just like Mel. So I don't want Santa to question me and think I have my own like agenda. Right. Okay. So enjoy Dale. Ali Shia. Nottie. Notty.ia naughty not naughty yeah not even a question she's

2:38.1

going to be on that show in February with um what show the ht tv oh did we talk about this i don't know

2:46.1

if it was on the podcast or off that makes sense based on what she did. I feel like she was promised a spot

2:54.1

in return for like stirring up drama because she did not need to insert herself in this or go

2:58.7

so hard on Kat. But that was the only thing that made those last few episodes of Paradise.

3:03.5

Interesting. It was the only like real storyline and drama plot line, whatever. And now she's being rewarded for it. Because otherwise it made no sense. It's like why is this even Kat was saying she was like, I thought we were friends. Like what was the problem here? Yeah. And like, she comes out of nowhere and goes so hard for Kat. It's like, why are you so invested in this? Why are you getting a lie detector test like on reservation because of cat? Like,

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