Welcome back to Paradise After Dark, the unofficial Bachelor in Paradise After Show coming to live after the show.

And give it up for jackie everybody

oh my god thank you guys please stop you're too much you're too much you're too much you're too

much hi everyone i'm so happy to be here i love when bachelor in paradise is good and and it was

to talk about it i know it really was yeah so we're going to recap episode seven but first I think we need to step into the creep corner because there's stuff that's gone on. If you were watching on YouTube, you may not be aware of the fact that we have audio-only episodes. So make sure that you're also subscribed to Cheez-All Batch on an audio platform like Apple or Spotify because our last sound-off episode was all about Clayton and Rachel on the

perfect match and all the backlash that Clayton received. And our first creep story is about

Clayton's response to the backlash. I know. Of course as soon as we post that episode, like I think

Clayton went on the vial files literally later that day. It was released and we just like really can't

win. It's fine. But now we get to creep on it

now fine and now we can respond right so we could cover like rachel's point of view in the last sound

off and now we can cover clayton's right in this episode although i don't know did you listen to it

i don't think clayton defended himself very well and i'm still angry at him. Sorry Clayton. I love

you. But like, come on. Come on. Come on now. Come on now. First of all, so he went on the vial files and

also dear shandy. So I watched both and I got two different perspectives. How was the

Dear Shandy one? I actually didn't see that one. I feel like they were kinder to him. I actually had, I think Nick and Natalie do a good job at interviewing people.

There's something that rubs me the wrong way when Nick critiques another man's behavior,

given Nick's reputation. In the stuff that he's done in his past, he comes off so condescending that it was just weird watching him almost like belittle Clayton for his behavior when Nick has done just the same.

But has Nick done just the same to girls?

His past is controversial.

I mean, he outed Andy for sleeping with him. And like that, that's how we, like, were introduced to Nick was the villain on anti-season. And that moment on TV. Like, it just, to me, it feels weird. Yeah, but I actually understand that moment more than I understand Clayton's behavior, which we'll get into. Because I really think when Nick was doing that, it really came from a place from a place of genuine like confusion and hurt I don't think he was trying to expose Andy or like get back

at her and I don't think I don't think Clayton intended to hurt Rachel either but I think

Clayton has a history of just not being aware of like the weight of his words and how his actions affect other people.

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