Well, there's been an extraordinary global reaction to my interview with Fiona Harvey, the real Martha from baby reindeer.

More than 10 million people have so far watched a full interview on our YouTube channel.

More than 30 million more have seen it on our other social media platforms.

Many seem to have enjoyed it, and inevitably many did not.

The backlash has centred on whether I was right to give Fiona Harvey her right

of reply at all, and to the assertions made in our panel that Netflix could have a serious legal

challenge on its hands for making it so easily identifiable and claiming emphatically it was a true

story. So you've seen the interview, you've seen my verdict, we've had one debater about it, and now we debate the fallout to discuss.

I'm joined by the social commentator Imman Aiton, Defence Barrister Chris Dorr KC, and State's side Officer Tatum, YouTube channel, and Popcorn's Planet's Andy Signore.

Well, welcome to all four of you.

All right, Imam, I saw you on another show I used to Grace.

Good morning, Britain.

And here's what I thought.

I thought you raised a good point, okay?

And that's why I wanted to get you on today, get you back on Unsensitive,

because the point you made was you felt that there were ethical concerns

about having her at all on a platform as big as this one globally. So explain to me why.

Okay, so I think you went wrong in regards to a moral perspective. And this is where I think the conundrum lies in this kind of

issue in terms of understanding what is actually happening with this dynamic. So we've got two things.

I basically think at the heart of this conversation, thank you, at the heart of this conversation

is a moral perspective versus a capitalistic perspective.

So I'll just break it down.

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