Okay, we have a treat for you this week, or maybe not a treat. It's sort of totally humiliating to us,

but we're going to play one of our first episodes. It goes really well into what we're going to be

talking about over like the next month. And that's satanic panic.

And we have great shows coming up for you. So we want to play you a hilarious early show of ours.

And I mean, we've matured. We've grown up. It's hilarious. When we first started out, we were shocked that there were

200,000 podcasts in existence, even if people just did, you know, one or two episodes and didn't do

anything after that. How many do you think there are now? If you said 5.2 million, you're absolutely correct.

So if you're spending any time listening to us, my God, my Zeus, thank you so much.

I hope you enjoyed this one on backmasking, and it'll get you all prepped up to go, I can't wait

to hear about what's been going on in satanic panic and QAnon and back in Middle Ages history

because we go back that far over the next few episodes with better audio.

So enjoy.

Hi, this is Karen.

And I noticed while editing, we forgot to tell you in this episode what DeConversion

Therapy is actually about.

So a quick note, Bonnie and I have known each other

since we were one years old. I'm a little more mature than she is because my birthday is

three weeks ahead of hers. However, we both grew up in the Southern Baptist Church and got saved.

I went on to become a missionary overseas after college.

Well, she sort of earlier than I did started in with critical thinking.

And therefore, she left Christianity before I did.

However, we come at it from two different angles.

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