I'm Jane Marie, and this is the dream.

Big trigger warning today.

I'm not usually a fan of those, but, and this is going to sound like one of those I didn't care until it happened to me kind of things.

But I was so upset by today's interview that the minute it was over, I ran to my car and sobbed.

Yes, we all know I'm a crier, but this was different. So anyway, you're warned. You might be

upset after this. This past year, I was working on a podcast called Outlawed, which aimed to

inform people about abortion so they could have better discussions about it.

And one thing that came up a lot is the criminalization of pregnancy, essentially, like a fear

that abortion could lead to jail for the pregnant person or doctors, fear that miscarriage could

be mistaken for abortion, and if abortion's illegal, that person could face charges, etc.

A lot of these fears are hypothetical, but there have been some cases already where this sort of thing is happening,

and this is Charlotte Eisenberg.

I am from Western North Carolina.

Right now, I'm a university student at Appalachian State, and I'm a political journalist.

I write for Plug CLT, which is a Charlotte's news source, and I do journalism,

especially regarding reproductive rights issues in the area. And also I do some online advocacy

and organizing. And I'm the vice president of college Dems at our school.

Cool. Wow, you're doing a lot of stuff. Yeah. What are you studying? I am studying technical

writing and rhetoric with a minor in political science. Can we start with where you grew up?

Yeah. So I was born in Lincoln to North Carolina, which is a small town in western North Carolina. It is pretty much in the middle of

nowhere. I grew up in Gastonia, which is right beside it. It's one of the most polluted cities in

North Carolina. It's a leftover mill town. And it's very, very poor. I grew up in government housing

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